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That's right, Vivek Ramaswampy was not a natural born Citizen at birth ensuring sole allegiance to the United States. He's ineligible. He's a statutory Citizen but not an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. The two are not the same. Nowhere in the 14th Amendment are the words "natural born Citizen".

Clause 5 Qualifications:

[No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.]

As you see, the only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until a first generation natural born Citizen was eligible. Martin Van Buren was the first natural born Citizen president.

1 posted on 07/27/2023 1:23:56 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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The way I look at it could he be any worse than the “natural born pig” in the WH?


164 posted on 07/27/2023 3:07:51 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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Seems there’s so many candidates that are not eligible yet end up running without any opposition.


165 posted on 07/27/2023 3:10:35 PM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your Trump shared a post on soci it all begins to make sense)
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Not this *again meme.


167 posted on 07/27/2023 3:26:45 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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That ship sailed in 08 get over it


170 posted on 07/27/2023 3:33:07 PM PDT by al baby (Sarcasm )
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If he was born within the United States to parents legally within the United States at the time of his birth, he is a natural born citizen. Period. That is what the phrase meant at the time it was written, and has been adjudicated multiple times.

That appears to be the case with him, therefore, he is a natural born citizen. It is absolutely false to state otherwise. This twitter poster is ignorant at best and could not possibly have done any significant research into the subject - and of course neither did you before posting.


172 posted on 07/27/2023 3:36:07 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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What are you smoking? You NBC fan-bois are totally ignorant of the Constitution, The 14th Amendment, numerous Supreme Court decisions and dozens of lower court decisions.

And the funny thing is? When pressed about the severity of an NBC you state the parents must also be NBC’s.

So that leaves Trump where? That’s right. Using your delusional standard - Trump himself is not eligible.

I wish once and for all you people would STFU and STFD.


182 posted on 07/27/2023 3:49:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Tagline for sale.)
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Wow , we see almost 200 replies on this threat dealing with natural born citizenship.

This is a Hot Topic.

It’s interesting to see people here present their evidence, as to why certain people are , or are not , natural born citizens.


185 posted on 07/27/2023 3:51:19 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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He was born in Cincinnati. He’s more eligible than Canadian Ted Cruz and the Kenyan Obama combined.


199 posted on 07/27/2023 4:20:56 PM PDT by Kazan
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Wow. The Republican establishment and DeSantis are really worried about Ramaswamy if they have to claim he’s ineligible to run.


200 posted on 07/27/2023 4:21:48 PM PDT by Kazan
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Nonsense.


209 posted on 07/27/2023 4:46:15 PM PDT by jimfree (My 20 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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Wrong. The SCOTUS has ruled he is a natural born citizen. You can repeat this until you are blue in the face. If he’s ever elected he will rightfully be inaugurated as president.


210 posted on 07/27/2023 4:49:44 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Someone in Hawaii will make him a fake birth certificate and he’ll be as good as gold. Just like the Kenyan


220 posted on 07/27/2023 5:08:10 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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How does the Constitution define “natural born citizen??”


230 posted on 07/27/2023 5:28:43 PM PDT by elpadre
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Stop with the stupid birtherism crap, just a bunch of trumptard losers that never shut up, u suck


250 posted on 07/27/2023 5:52:24 PM PDT by baclava
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That's right, Vivek Ramaswampy was not a natural born Citizen at birth ensuring sole allegiance to the United States.

If only this actually meant anything to the legions of leftists looking to destroy this once-great country.

The fact of the matter is, although remote, Vivek would likely not be challenged successfully on this matter given his birth in Cincy.

Even bringing this up is just unnecessary and silly - he's way behind in the polls if you believe them. It's meaningless and distracting noise from what should be the MAIN goal. But, like always, the right is great at beating themselves up and not the leftists, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
251 posted on 07/27/2023 5:54:19 PM PDT by proud_dad_of_two (Formerly MikefromOhio (I couldn't remember my password and lost the email account too!))
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OMG, please change your name to Nacho Man, because your legal acumen is about that of a container of Taco Bell Cheese Nachos.

The 14th Amendment is the embodiment of the law on natural born citizenship. Read Wong Kim Ark.


258 posted on 07/27/2023 6:08:12 PM PDT by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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Who really knows, Obama, Kamala, Ted Cruz, Nicky Haley?


267 posted on 07/27/2023 6:31:25 PM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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The fact that Obama‘s mom is a US citizen, and he was based on the commonly accepted birth certificate, born in Hawaii, he is, therefore, a US citizen, and no one would challenge his natural born status regardless of his father. I think the key to this was that he was a Democrat. Now, if we get a republican, take Cruz, for example, born in Canada, not even in the US. Even he said he was not eligible before he decided to run after all. Take are several Indian anchor babies, born in the US yes, but their parents were not citizens. They are not natural born citizens. I think this will be challenged by Democrats when a Republican comes up. And I will sure hate to see Republicans defend these Indian anchor babies as natural born citizens.


314 posted on 07/27/2023 7:23:35 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Trevor Sutcliffe is an inbred, mouth-breathing, microcephalic who doesn’t understand the difference between what is law and what is in accordance with the US Constitution.


321 posted on 07/27/2023 7:44:50 PM PDT by threefinger
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He was born in Ohio. He’s a natural born citizen. It doesn’t matter if your parents are from Neptune, if you’re born here it counts. Only exceptions are children born to foreign diplomats or heads of state.


324 posted on 07/27/2023 7:54:33 PM PDT by MagaMatt (Sapere aude.)
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