Posted on 06/05/2023 11:09:53 PM PDT by Kazan
>> The Ukrainians hold the right bank (that’s the bank to the west of the river for you riparian challenged) and the Russians hold the left bank. The right bank in Kherson (held by the Ukrainians) is ALL HIGH GROUND and NOT SUBJECT TO FLOODING. The left bank of the river there is all HELD BY THE RUSSIANS and is ALL LOW GROUND and is BEING FLOODED. The Russians would not do this to themselves. Only the STUPID and GULLIBLE would believe otherwise…which are you? <<
Oleshky, Hola Pryshtan, Khokany and Khardashynka, the Russian-occupied towns downstream of the dam, are all set back miles from the main flow of the river making them safer from flooding than Kherson. Kherson is directly on the banks, with dense housing right to the shore. There is actually some housing on the Left Bank, but this also is under Ukrainian control. The only settlement on the Left-Bank shoreline that is under Russian control is Nova Khakova.
“Scottland Today” just screams authenticity!
Your usual nonsense.
““Except the Russians did it.” - That statement makes about as much sense as the Russians blowing up their own pipeline. The dam also supplies water to Crimea.
AGREE - But the thing is, THEY know it was the Neocons, possibly with some Ukrainian help, particularly after what the Neocons did to the pipeline. Obviously, with much of of the former Ukraine now being returned to Russia, they want to make it as costly as possible for Russia.
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One minute the Scotland Today article cites tweets that say Ukraine was shelling the dam, the next it says it was a drone.
The article also says Zaporozhzhia Region “overwhelmingly supported” annexation despite the number of Oblast residents not voting at all VASTLY outnumbering the ones who did vote.
The title of the article suggests Zelenskyy ordered the attack but doesn’t provide even an allegation to that effect, let alone a sourced quote.
A test strike six months ago, which was intended to impair the use of the bridge not to blow the dam up, proves nothing.
Russia has spent the last few weeks evacuating people out of dozens of settlements south of the river, and moving them to the coast.
Russia is currently shelling Kherson while thousands of people are trying to get out of the way of the coming flood. Quite a stroke of luck, that they were so quick to retarget and so quick to know where to hit.
Russia is also saying, Crimea’s only going to be temporarily affected by the flood because they’d planned ahead.
Russian Telegram channels can’t make their mind up. Some are delighted that this breach will wash away Ukrainian forces downriver and are cheering the dam collapse - they’re only too happy to claim the credit.
Others are blaming Ukraine but are cheering the smarts of Russia moving its people out of the path of the flood, and could care less about those who haven’t gotten out of the way.
Who was in control of the dam? I thought it was Russia. A bloody drone didn’t do THAT much damage. Heck, even a targeted missile would only have done it if there’d beem a heck of a fluke.
Russia had more to gain and less to lose; it had more rational motives; it had better means and opportunity; it got the excuses out early; it got its people out of the way first.
All VERY convenient for Russia.
I am not sure which side to believe.
I look to see who is pushing an agenda. In this case:
Biden, all the Dems & RINOs, Hollywood, MSM, Romney, Graham, Cheney, Schwab, Trudeau, Kissinger, the Vindmans, Boris Johnson and Hillary.
The damage to the dam is extensive and internal, and extends to the entire length of the turbine halls, and clearly the result of demolition charges, not artillery shelling. 155mm artillery will not take out a massive reinforced concrete structure in its entirety, and will certainly leave entire sections with evidence of damage, which we do not see.
Trotsky was Russian - unless you think that Jews who had lived in Russia for centuries were somehow not Russian.
Leonid Brezhnev wrote in his book Memories (1979), : “And so, according to nationality, I am Russian, I am a proletarian, a hereditary metallurgist.”
Khrushchev was bornin Kalinovka,a village in what is now Russia’s Kursk Oblast, near the present Ukrainian border.[4] His parents, Sergei Khrushchev and Kseniya Khrushcheva, were poor Russian peasants.
The idiot Ukes did it. The Russian side of the river is the low ground and it cut off the north Crimean canal water supply again. It also endangers the nuclear plant cooling. Russia had zero advantage from this. It was the idiot Ukes… likely advised by Brits.
Yet another pile of made up s^^t!
Admitted in an interview with the Washington Post in December.Kiev indeed considered blowing up the dam to paralyze Moscow’s forces who were defending the city of Kherson – and even “conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates”
Dams generally have real time video, if the area is controlled by Russia and the video is not released, we know who did it.
You can trust me. The Ukes did it and are blaming it on Russia.
I disagree. The water flow will prevent effective river-crossing operations for probably a week or so. The small scale topography of the ground will change somewhat and the ground will be saturated for that period. It is one less sector to worry about while parrying a Ukrainian attack elsewhere.
>> Russia occupies 75 percent of Kherson province, everything east of the Dnieper River. <<
Kherson is also the major city downriver of the dam. Ukraine controls both banks near Kherson.
Also: The Russians love destroying infrastructure. It’s strong evidence they don’t really think of the land they’re occupying is theirs. (Crimea is.)
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