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Americans have stopped listening to each other. What Socrates can teach us about it | Opinion
Pennsylvania Capital-Star ^ | MAY 10, 2023 | J. W. Traphagan and John J. Kaag

Posted on 05/18/2023 12:23:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 05/18/2023 12:23:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The Rats have gone full commie and are sexually mutilating children. That’s a fact.


2 posted on 05/18/2023 12:28:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Socrates was a jerk.


3 posted on 05/18/2023 12:30:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Americans have stopped listening to each other. What Socrates can teach us about it

Soo... someone is pushing back a little, isn't that what you're really saying?

4 posted on 05/18/2023 12:30:25 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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A complete waste of time. The left does not want truth; it wants the revolution, and that is all that matters to the left.

The left does not need to be convinced. The left needs to be converted: to experience, since we're talking Greek philosophy, metanoia, a complete change of one's basic principles. That will not come from Socratic dialogue. It requires a complete reassessment of one's thinking, something that usually comes about only after a full collapse of one's own life. A complete American collapse may come about in our lifetime, but we're still a long way from becoming Zimbabwe or Sri Lanka.

5 posted on 05/18/2023 12:31:11 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: nickcarraway

After years of attacking various preferences of patriotic conservatives, the Demonicrats, with the help of other Marxists, are now attacking the absolute values of patriotic conservatives. The Demonicrat declare such stated values are hate speech and should be banned. The Demonicrats refuse to compromise on their attacks and the conservative, mostly Christian, patriots also refuse to abandon their absolute values.

There is no longer any reason or intention to listen or negotiate with the other side. The Demonicrats have now unleashed their plan of violence, arson, murder, perversion, and riots to bring about the destruction of patriotic Americans.

Things are likely to get worse rather than better. One side will have to lose and lose big time! It will not be pretty.


6 posted on 05/18/2023 12:33:35 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Gene Eric

True.

And I have heard religious types counsel us to be the ones to be meekly silent and compromising when confronted by Leftist relatives, coworkers and all others. Avoid confrontations. Love thy neighbor.

Fold our hands at family gatherings and holidays or be verbally abused and kicked out and locked out for next time.

Why not THEM?

Don’t try to convince me they aren’t going to be silent about the government taking us away in trucks to the concentration camps.

“They deserved it. Yeah, they supported Trump. They were against a woman’s right to choose abortion.
They didn’t keep quiet when we canceled them on social media.”


7 posted on 05/18/2023 12:36:01 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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Perhaps this white-knuckled insistence on being right is the root cause of the societal fissure – why everything seems so irreparably wrong.

This is so incorrect as to make one laugh.

The problem is NOT that we disagree on what is right - the problem is that the left WILL NOT let us live with our version, insisting instead that we adopt theirs, and they will indoctrinate our children in their beliefs.

Conservatives (for the most part) are live-and-let-live people - I certainly am - but when a leftist starts imposing their views on me and mine, I get a little cantankerous.

The left is wrong on most every subject, and the state of the country is evidence that this is so.

8 posted on 05/18/2023 12:38:36 PM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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Put another way, humility about the verity, accuracy and wisdom of one’s ideas can reveal the fact that others have understandable reasons for thinking as they do — as long as you try to see the world as they are seeing it. In contrast, arrogance tends to extinguish the “heavenly light” about what we still don’t fully understand.


Do liberal radical types, ever try to see the world as we conservatives do? Do they ever think that we have understandable reasons for thinking as we do???


9 posted on 05/18/2023 12:42:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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they change the meanings of words to fit their lies

make nonstop baseless specious accusations

and call us every name in the book

how do you have a discussion with people like that?


10 posted on 05/18/2023 12:45:42 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Waste of time. Talking to a SCOTUS judge who doesn’t know what a woman is? A man competing in woman’s sports? The women won’t stand ups for themselves.


11 posted on 05/18/2023 12:46:56 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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There is No reason to listen to Socalist and marxist rantings and no reasoning with them. Just pray that they get saved.


12 posted on 05/18/2023 12:48:18 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST1 DEATH TO ARXISM AND GLOBALISM! )
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To: Carl Vehse

Actual demons called. They object to being compared to the Democrats.


13 posted on 05/18/2023 12:54:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Since the link is from a Pennsylvania Paper even though the authors aren’t I’ll translate it into John Fetterman speak:
Good night. Speaking Socrates so many many speakings. To listen so many many.
I’m not making fun of people with brain trauma either. I’m insulting the evil bastards who are behind the man.


14 posted on 05/18/2023 12:54:50 PM PDT by freefdny
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I always try to use the Socratic argument style with leftists. It doesn’t work. They get emotional and angry.


15 posted on 05/18/2023 1:02:37 PM PDT by ooker312 (ooker)
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While I get the thought that I (and let me say Trump, because that’s the obvious real target here) may not agree we don’t “know everything” with humility, but I do know Democrats today (actual Bolsheviks in reality) want me defeated and gone probably most happy if I were dead.

So while we may always be people with the greatest level of humility, we are certainly not wrong about where the intended end game of our enemies is going.

If you haven’t figured out that this is literally war to the death of us and our country yet then there’s no hope for you.

Humility today is a luxury our freedom cannot afford right now.


16 posted on 05/18/2023 1:19:43 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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Trump’s lack of humility has harmed the right and helped the left, and I think that was always the point.


17 posted on 05/18/2023 1:22:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I’d like to talk with Bill and Ted because they were Excellent.


18 posted on 05/18/2023 1:23:42 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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I reject that depiction.

The Left won’t listen to reason.

The Right is willing to listen but it knows the weakness of
listening to people too stupid to look at history and avoid the
same mistakes that destroyed every nation where Communism
was installed.

This destructive politically correct war that is going on
here in the United States is also something that cannot
produce anything productive. It’s just a destructive tool
being used to being down this nation.

The Left is melting down.


19 posted on 05/18/2023 1:34:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: frank ballenger

Totally agree.


20 posted on 05/18/2023 2:16:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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