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Texas shooting victims reach $144.5M settlement with DOJ
The Hill ^ | 04/05/2023 | JULIA SHAPERO

Posted on 04/05/2023 8:33:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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Federal government was found partially responsible for the shooting huh? Interesting.
1 posted on 04/05/2023 8:33:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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A reminder that the Dims’ war on Christians didn’t start this year. It’s been going on a while.


2 posted on 04/05/2023 8:34:56 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Always conceal carry...always.


3 posted on 04/05/2023 8:38:22 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Oh, “DOJ” money. Oh, otay.


4 posted on 04/05/2023 8:43:04 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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This wasn't "the government", it was specific individuals in the U.S. Air Force who failed to report the shooter's criminal history to civilian authorities.

The taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for this. The officers who failed and their superiors should be billed for it and the money paid out of a fund paid for by reducing the pay for officers in the AFSCs that were responsible for reporting this to remind them of the consequences of failing to do their jobs.

5 posted on 04/05/2023 8:44:03 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Hmm. 2017 shooting — that was while Donald was in office.
Is this settlement another way to point fingers at him ?


6 posted on 04/05/2023 8:44:18 AM PDT by George from New England
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He did something, while in the Air Force that the military didn't enter into the system.

It would have prevented him from, legally, buying a gun.

The killer was, eventually, stopped by an armed citizen with an AR15.

7 posted on 04/05/2023 8:47:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez found the government 60 percent responsible for the attack, after the Air Force failed to report Kelley’s criminal history to the FBI.

“[T]he evidence shows that — had the Government done its job and properly reported Kelley’s information into the background check system — it is more likely than not that Kelley would have been deterred from carrying out the Church shooting,” Rodriguez said in the July 2021 ruling.


They failed to follow their own rules in reporting behavior that would have shown in the background check and prevented him from buying the guns he used to commit mass murder.

Did the government argue that background checks would simply force him to buy black market guns and not prevent the event?


8 posted on 04/05/2023 8:47:55 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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Our money.


9 posted on 04/05/2023 8:49:40 AM PDT by vivenne
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You mean DOH-J doesn’t have their own money? 🤔😁👍


10 posted on 04/05/2023 8:51:19 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Seems like the shooter fell through the cracks buying a gun if I remember correctly The Feds knew he was a nut job


11 posted on 04/05/2023 8:55:56 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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12 posted on 04/05/2023 9:08:07 AM PDT by DocRock
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“U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez found the government 60 percent responsible for the attack, after the Air Force failed to report Kelley’s criminal history to the FBI.”

If the USAF failed to report to the FBI as required by law then yes the government bears some responsibility here.


13 posted on 04/05/2023 9:12:57 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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“This wasn’t “the government”, it was specific individuals in the U.S. Air Force who failed to report the shooter’s criminal history to civilian authorities.”

Yeah, sorry. That’s not even remotely arguable here. Active service military are government employees 24/7/365. What they do or don’t do in the course of their duty they do or don’t do on behalf of the government.


14 posted on 04/05/2023 9:16:54 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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As a general rule, the US Government is not responsible for the negligence of its employees unless immunity is waived. It appears that’s what happened here, probably under the Federal Tort Claims Act. The AFOSI personnel who failed to report the conviction were (IMHO) criminally negligent, probably relying on the “nobody ever checks this stuff and what are the chances anything will happen” reasoning. Inexcusable.

Colonel, USAF JAGCR (Ret)


15 posted on 04/05/2023 9:20:15 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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Why should the taxpayers pay for the crimes of the officers who failed in their jobs?

Why should these officers be indemnified for gross negligence?

16 posted on 04/05/2023 9:21:15 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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There you go again, being all logical and all.

Dream on FRiend, dream on.

It is a sad state of affairs I know but it is what it is, A BIG FREAKING MESS.


17 posted on 04/05/2023 9:34:08 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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There are no consequences within the military?


18 posted on 04/05/2023 10:12:17 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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The USAF and the government invited liability when they said they were shielded (sovereign immunity) by the same Brady Act that they had failed to obey.

Had they obeyed the Brady Act they would have been shielded from liability.


19 posted on 04/05/2023 10:43:29 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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This gives hope to the J6 political prisoners as it becomes more evident each day that the government incited the riot.


20 posted on 04/05/2023 10:54:58 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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