Posted on 03/25/2023 2:16:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
As is often the case with noble purposes, the results do not meet expectations. What China might do two decades later was not part of the calculus in the US and its allies taking down the Iraqi army and freeing the Iraqi people. The US invasion and liberation of Iraq in March 2003 lasted 21 days, ending on April 9, when Saddam Hussein’s brutal regime collapsed and major combat engagements for US and partner forces stopped. Twenty years later, pundits and perfect-hindsight-seers heap criticism on America for either bungling Operation Iraqi Freedom or for starting it in the first place.
How Much Are Americans Paying? However, some believe the absence of a US military stationed in Iraq has opened wide the door for a Chinese economic and political presence that will prove inimical to US interests. Gloating over what it says is a “brighter future with Chinese companies’ efforts,” Global Times, the CCP’s propaganda mouthpiece, asserts: “For these Chinese constructors, this is much more than just a job opportunity or business project but is a chance to make a meaningful contribution to the local people who have gone through the pain of war.” However, the Muslim Uighurs in the north-western region of Xinjiang, China, who have felt the genocidal persecution of the CCP’s iron hand, might have a different view.
Freeing Iraq Did Not Include China
By way of background, remembering what US and coalition forces did in freeing Iraqis from a vicious dictator is helpful. Former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz described in a meaningful way in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee what US and coalition intervention in Iraq meant to the Iraqi people. Wolfowitz quoted an Iraqi blogger on the first free election day the country had seen for decades:
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Another stupid adventure of the Forever War that has blown up in our faces. The clowns that rule will impoverish and slave us if we do not stop them.
Iraq also buys weapons from Russia...
The US citizens will never know the purpose, what they found there and were told to not see, and the extent of what it is going to postpone. As small pieces of information concerning the weapons, tactics, the extent of what countries and how much they were involved, and how far back our engagement actually was initiated are leaking out, (and they aren’t through yet) it could fall in line but it is going to really clobber many politicians still active in and out of the parties so it will be delayed. You don’t defecate where you eat.
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After a bankruptcy, one can often pick up stuff at pennies on the dollar/yuan.
Chicoms sold Iran centrifuges and ring magnets to make their atom bombs.
They’ve been allied for decades.
I believe Obama pulled us out of Iraq, as Biden fled Afghanistan, invited the invasion of Ukraine, and turned Saudi Arabia into an enemy aligned with Iran (soon to have nukes).
Most if not all of the damage attributed to “neocons” actually occurs during communist administrations.
Ooos.
I thought it was about Iran and China.
They have provided similar material to Iraq also.
Seems like you’re being kind of vague about something. What can you tell us? Can you at least give us some hints?
Congress provides defense spending authorizations not presidents.
The 2007 Democrat Congress cut OCO funds for Iraq necessitating withdrawal.
The 2020 Democrat Congress cut OCO funds for Afghanistan necessitating withdrawal.
Do you think that because you are one?
Nothing new. From 2008:
https://www.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/08/30/iraq.china.oil.deal/
The protesters chanting “no blood for oil” should have been chanting “no blood for the Chinese to get oil”.
The only winner of that stupid war was Iran.
Yes, any fool could see that if you gave Iraq “democracy” the majority Shiites would naturally be oriented toward Iran —they are Shia first and foremost. Iraq was not suited to democracy — real democracy cannot be conjured out of a ballot box in an instant. If we just had to get rid of Saddam, we should have gone in and replaced him with a less nasty dictator, remind the new guy he rules at our pleasure, then left. Lots cheaper and way more effective. Also more humane.
The Chinese didn’t do too badly, either. See my #12.
“Freeing Iraq Did Not Include China”
You can’t force freedom on a people who do not want it.
Most of what the PRC has done along those lines is to lend money for infrastructure projects. Then it tries to run the project. Then it tries to collect from the natives. It seems to have been losing its shirt on a lot of them.
Pretty much as what’s been happening with that sort of thing in China proper.
UN precedent from the Korean War incorporated into Resolution 687 provided for the intended invasion of Iraq. The war against Saddam Hussein was resumed because Bush #2, as UN Commander in Chief, finally obeyed UN and confirming Congressional mandates. Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill envisioned the re-establishment of collective security when the UN was founded in San Francisco. Finally, in 2003 the United States, heading a coalition exceeding that Churchill and Roosevelt assembled to confront Hitler’s Germany, toppled Hussein’s regime, and forced the UN to confront the reason for its’ existence as defined in 1948.
“China Gloats as Beijing Buys Iraq”
China Gloats as Beijing Buys Bidens
There, fixed it
We spent $ trillions and left all the oil and resources.
China will spend $ millions in bribes, and they will control the oil and resources.
Hell, they ort to gloat over buying Biden and most of the US Congress. That is better than Iraq. They own hundreds of thousands of acres of our farm lands, they own buildings, businesses, plants, ports, people, air ports, did I say people? The US of A is being SOLD down the creek and we ain’t getting the benefits of any sale, we ARE LOSING OUR COUNTRY THANKS TO THE LEFTIST’S ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT SCUM THAT OWNS AND WORKS IN SODOM ON THE POTOMAC!!!
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