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How The U.S. (And UK) Sabotaged Peace In Ukraine
Moon of Alabama ^ | February 22, 2023

Posted on 02/22/2023 8:47:45 AM PST by Kazan

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1 posted on 02/22/2023 8:47:45 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

It’s possible that Russia is working behind the scenes with our treasonous leaders to bring us to the brink of nuclear war or beyond. If I didn’t know better I would think this is in line with the end times prophecy. Let’s not get distracted.


2 posted on 02/22/2023 8:54:35 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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“Multiple times along the line of events the Ukraine had tried to come to peace with Russia. Each time we know of the ‘West’, i.e. the U.S. and UK, successfully sabotaged the peace efforts.”

Aww, poor Russia, starting a war thinking it could plead for “peace” when the tide started turning against it and still keep some gains. But not this time.


3 posted on 02/22/2023 8:54:48 AM PST by Boogieman
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Yeah. I’m sure that pussy has spent years in the trenches hardening himself.

Put a pathetic ball Washington article that Washington Post one was.


4 posted on 02/22/2023 8:55:02 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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“…ball-washing article by the Washington Post…”


5 posted on 02/22/2023 8:56:32 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Kazan

You know who really sabotaged peace?

RUSSIA when they invaded another sovereign country.


6 posted on 02/22/2023 9:06:57 AM PST by DannyTN
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LOL


7 posted on 02/22/2023 9:08:28 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: DannyTN

America! When they invaded another country!

See? I can do that too. It’s incredibly childish and indicative of an extreme low IQ, but I can pretend. It seems to come naturally to you though.


8 posted on 02/22/2023 9:14:00 AM PST by Bulwyf
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FTA: “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea…”

That is another confirmation that Russia had invaded and occupied Ukrainian territory in the Donbas area prior to February 24, 2022. And it also supports the evidence that Russia was very much involved militarily inside eastern Ukraine since 2014, which Russia has denied.

“…and allows Ukraine to keep its sovereignty.”

So, NOW Russia is acknowledging Ukrainian sovereignty?

“Specifically, Steinmeier’s formula calls for elections to be held in the separatist-held territories under Ukrainian legislation and the supervision of the OSCE.”

Do you know who squawked about that? It was your homeland, Russia, that screamed “Nyet!”

Why? Because the formula called for elections UNDER UKRAINIAN LEGISLATION! And, under the Ukrainian constitution, ALL Ukrainians are allowed to vote on such referenda or measures. That was the LAST thing Russia wanted.


9 posted on 02/22/2023 9:14:43 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: HighSierra5

I believe from what I’ve read, is that Russia before the war would have agreed to a peace agreement if Ukraine would agree not to join Nato, agree to the official annexation of Crimea, and to address the issues involving the Russians on the East Coast who were apparently being terrorized by Ukrainian nazi groups.

There is no doubt in my mind that the US and UK pushed this war. The bombing of the Nord Stream II pipeline should send chills down your spine. The German people should be furious about this.

I believe what I hear from Colonel McGregor, who said from day one, that Ukraine should look at the reality and find a peace deal with Russia before this gets into a shooting war, when in the end, it will end up having the same terms, as if they had agreed to them on day one


10 posted on 02/22/2023 9:15:08 AM PST by nikos1121
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"America! When they invaded another country!"

Except we didn't. I haven't seen any reports of US troops in the 2014 Ukraine overthrow of Putin's strongman. It was all Ukrainians that I can tell.

Did Nuland have a phone call? Did the US express support to the overthrow? Probably. Did we actually do anything substantive? It looks to me like it was all Ukrainians.

11 posted on 02/22/2023 9:17:41 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Kazan

To me it’s simpler. Why negotiate now if you can fight some more than then have a better negotiating position.


12 posted on 02/22/2023 9:18:00 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Kazan

Look at you, trusting the word of the guy who directly torpedoed Trump’s Middle Eastern peace plan.


13 posted on 02/22/2023 9:18:59 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Kazan

The Biden stooges still think the corrupt Uke NAZIs, oligarchs and launderers are fighting for their vision globalism. In reality ALL of this US effort is to ensure “well SOB, the prosecutor got fired” shall not perish from the earth.


14 posted on 02/22/2023 9:19:28 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: DannyTN

Whatever you say. Let’s just kill all the whities already and launch nukes. Fool.


15 posted on 02/22/2023 9:20:20 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Kazan

No surprises here, this is typical of the West to interfere in European matters of War. Let us all remember it was Britain who stopped the Serbs from apologizing to Austria -Hungary, over the letter sent to Serbia demanding an apology for assassinating Ferdinand, which Britain used the press to label it ‘The Ultimatum ‘.

It was Great Britain that actually caused the dominos to fall leading to global war in 1914. Today it is the United States and Britain interfering and extending an unnecessary war in Europe.


16 posted on 02/22/2023 9:23:14 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: Bulwyf

No one is going to launch nukes, don’t be silly.

Russia want’s to expand, not turn their existing land into radioactive ruins.

No one is afraid of Putin’s bluffs.


17 posted on 02/22/2023 9:33:47 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Kazan

All worship Saint Zelensky.


18 posted on 02/22/2023 9:45:13 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Kazan

Moon of Alabama = bogus Russian lies & propaganda

DON’T BELIEVE


19 posted on 02/22/2023 9:45:28 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Year Two now of Putin's "simple 1-month conquest" !!)
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Every knee-jerk neocon here forgets that the USA organized a classic color-revolution in Ukraine in 2014, deposing an elected President, and installing neo-Nazi/nationalist radicals - who then promptly started shelling Russian-speaking Donbas - with NATO help.

If it were me, and China or Russia were doing this on our borders - I would have declared war immediately.


20 posted on 02/22/2023 10:08:01 AM PST by PGR88
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