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Europe confirms Putin's victory in Ukraine? 'War will be over unless...' (Words of EU foreign affairs chief Joseph Borrell
Hindustan Times ^ | 2/19/2023 | Staff

Posted on 02/19/2023 6:48:50 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...

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To: canuck_conservative

I thought the largest country in Europe is Denmark (Including Greenland) or is that western Europe?


21 posted on 02/19/2023 8:05:20 PM PST by Fai Mao
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

What do you think Scholz will do when they tell him, “Putin’s on the phone. He’s calling about Königsberg”?


22 posted on 02/19/2023 8:06:05 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: Jim Noble

Russia’s economy is dominated by oil and other extractive industries. It has a relatively small manufacturing sector. It’s not a manufacturing giant.


23 posted on 02/19/2023 8:09:16 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

“No, I’m saying you are lying when you exaggerate what they said.”

You’re welcome to IGNORE what they say, if that’s what you need to do. But it WILL NOT change the facts on the ground.


24 posted on 02/19/2023 8:18:21 PM PST by BobL
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To: Its All Over Except ...

“Less than 2 months ago, the New York Times reported that most NATO members stockpiles were depleted. But the NYT was obviously paid by Putin to say that.”

LOL, it must be tough being a Neocon supporter!!!


25 posted on 02/19/2023 8:19:19 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

The facts on the ground are that Russia is in a quagmire. They have gone backwards since the summer and the recent minor gains have not fundamentally changed that. Putin will not have Bakhmut as a prize for his victory concert that you all have been predicting.


26 posted on 02/19/2023 8:24:16 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: BobL

And Russia has a bottomless inexhaustible stockpile, is that it? 🙄


27 posted on 02/19/2023 8:26:07 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

“The facts on the ground are that Russia is in a quagmire. They have gone backwards since the summer and the recent minor gains have not fundamentally changed that.”

Ok, if you need to claim that, then so be it.


28 posted on 02/19/2023 8:29:24 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin

“And Russia has a bottomless inexhaustible stockpile, is that it?”

Read up a bit on the Soviet ground forces. Unlike the West, Russia didn’t believe in “The End of History”, so they held on to their huge inventories...which are basically inexhaustible for a war as small as Ukraine.


29 posted on 02/19/2023 8:31:31 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

Ok, if you need to claim that, then so be it.


30 posted on 02/19/2023 8:36:04 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: BobL

Yep. But what do they get in return from Lindsey Graham?

New York Times

US and NATO Scramble to Arm Ukraine and Refill Their Own Arsenals

“Last summer in the Donbas region, the Ukrainians were firing 6,000 to 7,000 artillery rounds each day, a senior NATO official said. ... the United States produces only 15,000 rounds each month. ... Smaller countries have exhausted their potential, another NATO official said, with 20 of its 30 members “pretty tapped out.” ...”


31 posted on 02/19/2023 8:45:32 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: canuck_conservative

You go azov with the Nazis, I’ll try Wagner. Hope you’re good for more than 2500 yards, I know I am.

Oh wait. That would require you to get off your arse. How much does Trudeau’s liberal government pay you with Alberta’s money?


32 posted on 02/19/2023 9:11:02 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Note the pattern of these Operatives. From their own media, they selectively ignore stories that state the obvious - which is that the West never thought they’d have to fight a land war in Europe - and then the West runs out and starts a land war in Europe.

Then, when the obvious is brought up, you can see how they use Alinsky tactics to try to personalize it against the person bringing it up...rather than ever conceding any ground.


33 posted on 02/19/2023 9:27:31 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin

“The combined economies of NATO are 10 times the size of Russia’s.”

In the US a single patient can consume drugs in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. A day in a US hospital can be over $10,000.

And regulatory compliance can be very expensive.


34 posted on 02/19/2023 9:36:36 PM PST by Brian Griffin (una vez)
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To: canuck_conservative

Who is going to ask Europe?


35 posted on 02/19/2023 9:40:52 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Salohcin
"No, I’m saying you are lying when you exaggerate what they said."

I'm willing to wait until the dust settles to declare the winner.

I'm not sure which side it is, but in accordance with America's value system, I'm rooting for the side that most "looks like me". /s

36 posted on 02/19/2023 9:42:14 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: Salohcin

And this take is based on that? The productive segment of the Russian economy is larger than that of Germany, and two and a half times of France, which are the industrial powerhouses.
Or 40% of the US output.
And that without the adjustment by PPP. Do you know that a dozen of edges cost way under a dollar in Russia?


37 posted on 02/19/2023 9:45:56 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Salohcin

And this take is based on that? The productive segment of the Russian economy is larger than that of Germany, and two and a half times of France, which are the industrial powerhouses.
Or 40% of the US output.
And that without the adjustment by PPP. Do you know that a dozen of edges cost way under a dollar in Russia?


38 posted on 02/19/2023 9:46:02 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Salohcin

And this take is based on that? The productive segment of the Russian economy is larger than that of Germany, and two and a half times of France, which are the industrial powerhouses.
Or 40% of the US output.
And that without the adjustment by PPP. Do you know that a dozen of edges cost way under a dollar in Russia?


39 posted on 02/19/2023 9:46:19 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Salohcin

“The combined economies of NATO are 10 times the size of Russia’s. You really expect anyone to believe that they can’t match Russia’s weapons production?”

You took the words right out of my mouth.


40 posted on 02/19/2023 9:56:46 PM PST by mbrfl
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