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We don't have enough tanks to send to Ukraine, Pentagon admits: Biden's promise to send 31 Abrams could take up to a YEAR - because the US has to buy more
www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 01/27/2023 | Geoff Earle

Posted on 01/27/2023 7:36:09 PM PST by massmike

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To: PubliusMM

They started that when Bill Clinton downsized the military and closed all those SAC bases. ***SPIT***


61 posted on 01/28/2023 1:14:54 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: massmike

LOL..knew it. It was never gonna happen. I seen over 2,000 Sitting in the desert, But alas they all have the DU armor.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/01/sierra-army-depot-the-worlds-largest-m1-abrams-tank-graveyard-video/

Don’t let the headline fool you. The depot refreshes and ships out M1A1’s on a regular basis.


62 posted on 01/28/2023 1:18:49 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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To: catnipman

Check and see if the Afghans will lend us some.


63 posted on 01/28/2023 3:03:35 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: massmike

Zelenski can go to Afghanistan to pick up our Army surplus.
Perhaps he and Putin can get into a bidding war.


64 posted on 01/28/2023 3:58:11 AM PST by SisterK (the final variant is communism)
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To: Vehmgericht

“Check and see if the Afghans will lend us some.”

no point ... they’re selling ‘em to the russkies ...


65 posted on 01/28/2023 5:06:18 AM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Don’t we ALWAYS fight the next war with the last war’s weapons?


66 posted on 01/28/2023 5:09:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Theophilus
...radioactively polute the battlefield.

Oh?

With DEPLETED uranium??

67 posted on 01/28/2023 5:10:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: massmike

What ever happened to all those M-60s we used to have?


68 posted on 01/28/2023 5:16:10 AM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: canuck_conservative

I believe it was Zelensky that just said he wasn’t interested in any peace.


69 posted on 01/28/2023 5:19:26 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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To: massmike

Perhaps they could purchase some from Afghanistan.


70 posted on 01/28/2023 5:21:09 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Jim Noble

With all the WW III talk—its a bluff—no weapons for a real war we would be forced to go NUKE with a first strike. 31 tanks will not stop even a small nation. Out Metrosexual Army and Navy wouldn’t match that of the Mexican Cartels at this point. We have won the PR/Propaganda War in Ukraine but what happens when Zelensky gives his nightly broadcast with Russian music from the parade in downtown Kiev? That’s the problem with Propaganda—reality gets in the way.


71 posted on 01/28/2023 5:44:29 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: massmike

Congress should demand an immediate audit of all expenditures for Ukraine since January 21, 2021. And until that is completed and published in the public record, no more money for Ukraine by the American taxpayer.


72 posted on 01/28/2023 6:00:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (“Racist” is the new “Nazi”.)
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To: massmike

US DU armor on M1A1s has been classified since 1988 or so. We do not export them, no matter their age or quantity in storage. There is only one manufacturer General Dynamics Corp. GD is currently working through the Polish order of 116 tanks M1A2Ms to be delivered by the end of the year and then begins on the next 350 for the same customer. Exportable M1A2Ms have standard armor, optics, and sensors and are not classified in any way.

We only export versions without Depleted Uranium/ceramic armor - M1A2Ms. There are no qualified companies to remove the DU armor, and it would take around 64 months to get just one up to speed on removing the DU armor alone, health and safety issues would take longer.

No US M1s were even in Afghanistan. Iraq and Saudi have exportable M1, Egypt makes M1 exportable under license.

They are experimenting with a version that uses a hybrid electric engine to make it quieter in certain situations (M1s are already pretty quiet) and to lessen the fuel logistics.

Tank retrievers are in the package - Ukraine already has tank transported and they use mostly rail anyway.

Disregard the erroneous, misleading and disinformation comments by known Pootie trolls.


73 posted on 01/28/2023 6:06:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: nickcarraway

—”Damaged by what?”

Damaged by what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams
Persian Gulf War
...”A total of 23 M1A1s were damaged or destroyed during the war. Of the nine Abrams tanks destroyed, seven were destroyed by friendly fire and two intentionally destroyed to prevent capture by the Iraqi Army. Some others took minor combat damage, with little effect on their operational readiness.”

Iraq War
...”During the invasion, at least nine Abrams tanks were put out of action by fire from rocket-propelled grenades”

During three months, about one-third of the Iraqi Army’s M1 tanks had been damaged or destroyed by ISIL and some were captured by opposing forces. By December 2014, the Iraqi Army only had about 40 operational Abrams left. “

Not listed are a few reports of Abrams crew injuries from mine damage in Iraq.


74 posted on 01/28/2023 6:46:44 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Gunslingr3

100% correct and something too many here don’t understand. The tanks going to foreign governments are not US configuration. We never send our top of the line stuff. I remember people going crazy over the stuff left in Afghanistan and how China and Russia was going to our technology. When the fact was that the equipment left in Afghanistan was primarily older assets a lot of which we don’t even use anymore. Many of the vehicles were broken down and abandoned. The aircraft were all older models we generally do not fly and all the sensitive avionics were stripped out of them. We should have still destroyed as much of it as possible though.


75 posted on 01/28/2023 7:05:47 AM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: dforest

your “peace” means surrendering to Russia, which is not an option

Russia keeps attacking and warmongering, so Russia is not interested in peace, just conquest

this war will still be going a year from now


76 posted on 01/28/2023 7:35:51 AM PST by canuck_conservative ((12th month now, and no end in sight))
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To: massmike

If tanks are really so scarce then the policy is indeed foolish.


77 posted on 01/28/2023 8:18:59 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: Elsie

Correct. Time to break out the reverse engineered alien tech we have.


78 posted on 01/28/2023 8:19:55 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: massmike

OK. Time for Xi Jinpig to take Taiwan. Stupid Americans depleted enough assets without replacing them.


79 posted on 01/28/2023 8:31:23 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: massmike

Big Pharma drove the Scamsemic.

Now it’s The Military -Industrial Complex’s turn.

And they suck out 10X as much $$$ as Big Pharma does.

This is such robbery!!!


80 posted on 01/28/2023 10:05:25 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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