Posted on 01/23/2023 7:30:30 PM PST by george76
An overflowing, angry crowd of nearly 200 area citizens filled the Roubideau Room of the Delta County Human Resources room beyond capacity with the door to the room staying open for those who could not fit in the tight space Wednesday evening.
The apparent consensus was that new land use restrictions are being placed on their personal land and property, which would result in fees or not allow them to use their land for purposes they intended..
Before the public hearing regarding the land use code began, Planning Commission Chairman Tom Kay gave a brief presentation on the beginnings and reasons for the land use code. Kay said the planning commission has been holding biweekly work sessions and hearings regarding potential changes to the land use code since October 2021, but those meetings were not well attended by the public.
It was mentioned that residents must obtain a permit from the state as far as electrical and plumbing matters to their personal property. One part of the 2021 code that was referred to several times states that things are allowed on the property if it doesn’t materially change the character of the residence and its use doesn’t create excessive noise, odor, dust, lights, traffic or other disturbances.
The public hearing began with an individual named Scott who said he wanted to put three RV covers on his property on California Mesa and “it turned into a nightmare” due to code restrictions and regulations. The person said he has invested an enormous amount of funds to comply with the code.
Hotchkiss resident Darlene Green said a coalition should be formed for individuals to serve to help the commission make informed decisions.
Crawford resident Larry Jensen was concerned about the cattle ranch he owns and restrictions the changes in the code might make to his land.
“We’re not good with this… property rights are inalienable,” area resident David Jensen said, adding that the constitution provides freedom to personal property.
At first, things were running orderly as individuals presented their opinions one at a time as they were called upon by Kay, with many saying that they felt their rights were being taken away. However, profanities and name-calling then began. One individual in particular screamed out, “You work for the public,” while giving way to obscenities as he engaged the crowd in his hostile behaviors. One Paonia resident told the crowd that they need to do everything possible to protect their land, be strong and stand together.
Several people said they moved to Delta County for freedom with their personal property.
“No one can tell me what I can not do on my property,” one individual said, and others agreed.
Eventually, Kay said they were going to end the public hearing portion and allowed the planning commissioners to chime in. Several of the planning commission members said they appreciated the input but could have done without the insolence. As the discussion became more controlled, it was realized by the planning commission that some of the verbiage of the code was causing confusion and they needed to use terminology such as “process review” instead of permit.
As chaos declined and the crowd dwindled in size, Crawford resident Rick Erker eventually said the planning commission is trying to serve as a facilitator to help people as they get land. “Your project sets people up for success in a lot of ways.”
Comments among some planning commissioners and residents seemed to echo sentiments about finding a balance with the land use code, recognizing that people are passionate about their property and their rights.
The planning commissioners said they regretted the 2021 land use code being outsourced by a group not associated with the county, and they are trying to revise things from that adopted code, usually in favor of the property owner. Individuals on the planning commission also said that they want to find a way to keep the constituents informed as they move forward.
Planning commissioners echoed the fact that they want to work with the land owners and many times, things will be allowed but residents have to go through the process, which includes contacting them, a public review and a public hearing for neighbors.
The planning commission welcomed residents to attend the biweekly planning meetings as well as the county commissioner meetings. Delta County Administrator Robbie LeValley volunteered to help get people set up for alerts for upcoming meetings.
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It was mentioned that residents must obtain a permit from the state as far as electrical and plumbing matters to their personal property. One part of the 2021 code that was referred to several times states that things are allowed on the property if it doesn’t materially change the character of the residence and its use doesn’t create excessive noise, odor, dust, lights, traffic or other disturbances.
It is easier for small towns to adopt them than write their own.
The state of Iowa has some original code written long ago but it has been superseded by the federal guidelines.
My county seems determined to take our homes through confiscatory taxation. Is this part of the Great Reset?
I should ad the small towns don’t have enforcement resources so they hire a community college grad on commission to enforce codes that nobody needs or wants.
In fact they train these community college grads on how to get the contracts.
Many of these young grads are dicks.
Were they all wearing covid masks?
Zatso? It's not "your" property.
Don't believe me?
Try not paying property tax and see what happens to "your" property.
You definitely don’t want it if you can stop it.
Challenge it in court every time until they run out of money.
Yes
“Central Planning” worked out really well for the Soviets.
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“Pay your land-rent, peasant, and muzzle up!”
Soon, we rural ‘land owners’ will be thanking our County, State, National and New World Order masters for kindly allowing us to even exist on the land that we paid for.
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Exactly!
They work for the people of the State! Insolence is what Government at every level is doing to We The People.
Get a rope!
I lived in Delta for several years as a child. I love that they’re more than any other place.
Haven’t Dem voters figured out what their problem is? If not, live with what and who you vote for and quit complaining.
Nevada County, n Calif tried similar crap.
IT AMOUNTS TO A “TAKING”.
IF the County/State wishes to change the ways you can use your property-—THEY MUST PAY YOU A CURRENT MARKET VALUE FOR THAT LOSS.
Heavily fought in Nevada County-—and I was VERY VOCAL. DIDN’T miss a single meeting & I was NOT polite in my arguments. Told the ‘new planning director’ they had hired from Los Angeles that he was an idiot—to his face-and that his major accomplishment of 2.5 gallon toilets on LA was a joke. HE didn’t know ANYTHING about rural agriculture.
I was RELENTLESS. I had to carefully explain to the audience WHAT A TAKING WAS. They were pissed.
When you get permits to build 14 stall horse barn on 30 acres of rural property and you have paid all those fees & the subsequent additional taxes——they cannot restrict usage at a later date without COMPENSATION. IN CASH.
County would have been bankrupted.
I lived in Nevada County, N Calif.
Supes decided to require a permit to change a water heater everywhere in the county-—$100.
I had just changed mine—new one cost me $69 & cash to neighbor for labor. Plus 100 mile trip to even buy one in another county.
Nevada County had already outlawed Big Box stores-—so we had to go west to Yuba County to Lowe’s, Ranch Supply, etc.
I got in their faces & told them they better be prepared to have a person watching all the hardware stores, etc. for water heater sales-—every open hour of business. They had already driven us out of the county to purchase such replacements.
Permit for $100 disappeared.
When I lived in Nevada County, N Calif-—the Supes decided that they wanted a physical INVENTORY of every BIRD—BEE—BUSH—TREE—in the entire county. About 2000 or so.
They had plenty of ‘retired’ professor types from Berkeley who would be glad to conduct such an inventory.
I had 5 acres-—prox 250’ X 900’.
I had 6 horses-—who were friendly-—but also VERY CURIOUS when something strange was in their territory. IF they were to see something/someone in the bottom of their pasture-—they would have run down at a gallop to see what was going
on....and WHO might have carrots!!! Would have terrified a NON-HORSE person.
The Supes made it VERY CLEAR that such inventories would be conducted with or without permission of property owners & with NO NOTICE to property owner.
I had a visual of an old professor & a couple of other Liberal SF types going over my gates-—LOCKED-—and wandering around counting my trees, etc.
When my horses came up at a gallop—I could just SEE the old professor go down with a heart attack—& I said such to the Supes.
They informed me that I WOULD BE LIABLE FOR ANY HARM THAT BEFELL THEIR HAND PICKED TEAMS.
I raised HELL again-—I was getting good at such meetings.
I told them it was outright trespassing & harassment of my large animals who never hurt anyone.
Enough other horse owners joined me in resistance.
They gave up INVENTORY idea.
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