Posted on 01/20/2023 9:54:47 AM PST by Kazan
World War III has started. I hope that more Americans are starting to understand that the war in Ukraine is not a battle between the forces of Kiev and the forces of Moscow. Ukraine is a mere proxy. Russia is fighting NATO and Russia fully understands this. Russia realizes it confronts an existential threat and is conducting itself accordingly. It appears that most Western leaders think Russia is bluffing and, if faced with enough international pressure, will back down. It is that kind of stupidity that makes global war a looming possibility.
Up to this point, Russia has confined its military response to hitting Ukrainian targets and engaging Ukrainian and foreign mercernaries on the battlefield. But recent decisions by the U.S. and NATO countries to send more weapons and vehicles to Ukraine in a desperate bid to stave off Ukraine’s defeat on the battlefield risks a dramatic expansion of the conflict beyond the borders of Ukraine.
As Helmholtz Smith notes in his latest post, the United States and Europe are scrambling to provide a new batch of weapons and vehicles (depleting their own resources in the process). It carries an air of desperation and the progress of Russia in the Donbas during the last weak is exacerbating their fears. I think Putin and his team of military leaders understand precisely what is at stake and are taking very visible steps to show they are preparing for the worst. The Hal Turner radio show posted this headline today:
Russia Installing “PANTSIR-S” Air Defenses on Roofs of MoD and Gov’t Buildings in Moscow
The PANTSIR is surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft artillery system. Russia has several models, with the PANTSIR SM the most capable deployed system in its inventory. Russia is prepared for the possibility that Ukraine, with the encouragement of the U.S. and NATO, will launch an attack on Moscow with missiles or drones supplied by the West. If that happens, then that will mark a terrible watershed for an escalation in this war.
If or when a US or European munition hits a target in Crimea or Moscow, Russia will ratchet things up and will likely go after US or European targets in Ukraine. Depending on the severity of the attack, I believe that Russia would be ready to hit bases in Poland or Germany being used to train Ukrainian forces. Before they do that, however, I believe they would shutter the Embassies in DC, London and Germany and ensure that the West cannot take Russia’s diplomats and intelligence officers hostage. Worst case, we hit Moscow and Moscow hits DC. This could get out of hand very rapidly.
I am not trying to frighten you, but the way the West is reacting is not rational and certainly is not based on any strategic vision. Russia clearly realizes this is a hot war. The West still labors under the delusion that the U.S. and NATO are not combatants. Nope, they are just providing the tools, intelligence and planning that Ukraine needs to kill Russians. If this was a murder case, the U.S. and NATO could be charged as accessories.
I would ask those politicians and pundits in Washington, DC who are agitating for pouring more weapons into Ukraine how the United States would react if Russia was arming Mexican drug cartels with weapons that were killing American citizens? You know the answer. The American public would be howling in rage and demand retaliation. If you think that Russians, whose history is written in the blood of centuries of invaders, do not care about the threat that NATO presents on its western border then you know nothing of Russia’s tenacity in beating back such threats. These are very dangerous times.
Widen?
What did Russia do about a year ago? Putin and his government stated it and failed to for see how the rest of the world would react.
That’s like saying fighting back only makes it worse.
By this logic Britain should not have fought Germany. We shouldn’t have fought Japanese.
Yep some real libtard reasoning going on.
Regards,
THIS Larry Johnson? Who has been discredited for years?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson
We've heard Biden tell conservative Americans that they'll need F-15’s and Nukes to take on Fedzilla.
And of course, Medvedev got his talking points directly from Putin, and now if they don't get their way in Ukraine via conventional weapons, they are now threatening the use of Nukes.
Fine, let's get it on and irradiate the world, and when Putin pokes his head out of his hidey hole after the fallout lessens, I wonder if he'll be proud of what he's done to his country and the entire world.
Assholes.
Russia is not massing forces to fight Ukraine. US backed former state of Ukraine is toast.
They are massing forces to fight anybody who wants to fight. And right now NATO and the US look like cowards handing out weapons.
“Here, you take them”.
It will also occur on the Moon, Mars, and Venus…
I’ve lived and worked in DC, and the “progressive” self-reinforcing bubble-think, arrogance and self-righteousness that apparatchiks there apply to conservatives, Americans and “fly-over” country is even stronger and more uniform among the foreign-policy/military types.
We are in a July 1914 type situation
The fools have had many decades of peace, printed-money, debt and dominance such that they are absolutely sure of themselves and the success of their schemes.
“World War III has started.”
Again? :-)
The Swamp's Piano Monkey capers and gibbers at the implacable Russians.
So we should just keep writing checks to Ukraine then right?
There is probably a good reason America isn’t mentioned in the Bible. Judging by so many Freepers’ unbridled hatred for anything Russian on here, and the absolute lack of any descent in Congress or allowed in the Mockingbird Media, it’s only a matter of time.
These documents found in Biden’s places of domicile are most likely warnings to him to stay the course. Damn the nuclear consequences, full speed ahead!
Ping
0h 1 of them posted just yesterday how guilty we are to have attacked the Japanese with a nuclear weapon, because Japan they said was not an existential threat.
And they used that to justify that Russia should now use a nuclear weapon against us.
I’m not dismissing the fact that this war is dangerous but letting Russia grab a big piece of real estate in the center of Europe would be more dangerous. They’ve been threatening nuclear attacks over this since the beginning all intended to freeze nato out of the conflict.
It didn’t work then and it’s not working now. Russia would be absolutely obliterated in any nuclear exchange. Not that it would be a great thing for the world but Putin Russia and all these other people making threars about nuclear weapons would all be dead and gone in Russia. They are not going to bury themselves over frigging Ukraine.
I think there is even a better reason that you are not mentioned in The Bible.
I would ask those politicians and pundits in Washington, DC who are agitating for pouring more weapons into Ukraine how the United States would react if Russia was arming Mexican drug cartels with weapons that were killing American citizens? You know the answer.
Oh puleeease. We didn’t invade Mexico.
The Russian propagandists including the useful idiots here, are making a big mistake about human nature.
Had Russia grabbed Ukraine in 3 days or 3 weeks like everyone predicted, we would have had to accept it and maybe fund some resistance movements that wouldn’t have amounted to much.
But now that Russia has failed for a year, the West began to arm Ukraine and the more Russia escalates the more the West is going to respond.
For example, if Russia takes the insane step of using even a small tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine, the West has already indicated that it will respond and destroy at least the Russian black sea fleet.
Therefore, all of these threats and hysterical comments are simply efforts to get nato to back off so that Russia can take a country that it should have taken in the 1st 3 weeks.
I don’t predict the outcome of the war but World War 3 is an extremely distant likelihood.
Using nuclear weapons is a dead end for Russia because the West we’ll have no choice but to respond in kind and that will be devastating for Russian military or Russian society which doesn’t have much resilience.
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