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To: blueplum

He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way.


19 posted on 01/17/2023 12:27:09 AM PST by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: stockpirate

“He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way.”

That’s true. It’s time he took a new narrative saying that very thing.

I can see how the phony “vaccine” might have ended lockdowns earlier than might have happened by giving sheepeople a false sense of security.

And if people want to put something toxic into their bodies, go right ahead. That’s been happening for centuries. Just DON’T MANDATE IT. Would the government demand that every citizen should smoke a pack of cigarettes every day?

That’s where PDJT needs to get stronger with the narrative. He always said it shouldn’t be mandatory, but when Biden came in to power everything changed.

And in the name of all that’s holy, Trump, STOP TAKING CREDIT! (Maybe he really doesn’t win in 2024.)


26 posted on 01/17/2023 1:22:06 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: stockpirate
He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way.

Then maybe Trump should be saying this and joining Governor DeSantis in demanding investigations on the safety of the Covid vaccines.

31 posted on 01/17/2023 2:24:31 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: stockpirate

toxic? It’s the virus that’s toxic

I’ve been out of the loop for a while, so to spek, but it seems lately myocarditis is Custer’s last stand, the only hill left for antivaxers to die on. Which is kind of wierd seeing the 16-24yo’ds are least likely to get vaccinated, most likely to have caught an asymptomatic or mild case of covid and covid-induced myocarditis is far more prevalent than vaccine-induced myocarditis

Consider the incidence of myocarditis in covid-infected:
“ For the 12-17-year-old male cohort, 6/6,846 (0.09%) patients developed myocarditis overall, with an adjusted rate per million of 450 cases (Wilson score interval 206 - 982). For the 12-15 and 16-19 male age groups, the adjusted rates per million were 601 (257 - 1,406) and 561 (240 - 1,313).... Young males infected with the virus are up 6 times more likely to develop myocarditis as those who have received the vaccine.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/

Now look at Pfizer/Moderna vaccines in a 4 nation Nordic study, never mind that the first in the age group most likely to be vaccinated would be high-risk, multiple morbidities kids:
- 40-70 events per million following Pfizer 2nd shot and 90 to 280 events following the second shot of Moderna, or 10% to 30% of covid-caused myocarditis

“In this cohort study of 23.1 million Nordic residents aged 12 years or older, the risk of myocarditis was higher within 28 days of vaccination with both BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 compared with being unvaccinated, and higher after the second dose of vaccine than the first dose.”

“The risk was more pronounced after the second dose of mRNA-1273 than after the second dose of BNT162b2, and the risk was highest among males aged 16 to 24 years. Our data are compatible with 4 to 7 excess events within 28 days per 100 000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and 9 to 28 excess events within 28 days per 100 000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273.”

40-70 and 90-280 is way lower or near to the background annual rate of myocarditis in the US, which is 220 events/million

Breaking it down to by age group, we get 55 to 184 events per million, again, compared to virus-caused myocarditis rate of 561-601 events per million shown above:

” Excess events within 28 days in males aged 16 to 24 years of 5.55 events per 100 000 vaccinees after the second dose with BNT162b2 and 18.39 events per 100 000 vaccinees after the second dose with mRNA-1273 are among the highest reported.3,4,32,33 Our finding of a higher risk of myocarditis after mRNA-1273 than after BNT162b2 in this group is in line with data from the US, Canada, France, and England.”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2791253

personally I think myocarditis is a false flag scary story


46 posted on 01/17/2023 3:16:47 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: stockpirate
"He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way."

That may be true, but he needs to recognize that, and stop supporting the "vaccines".

83 posted on 01/17/2023 4:26:21 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: stockpirate

He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way.


He does have some responsibility — he trusted them.

A lot of people he trusted that he shouldn’t have.


119 posted on 01/17/2023 5:34:08 AM PST by boycott
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To: stockpirate
He did increase the speed of approval, but they put out a toxic product, not his fault, they planned it this way.

The buck stops ... where?

Trump owns this mess. No creepy mRNA injections ==> no creepy mRNA injection mandates.

155 posted on 01/17/2023 7:13:54 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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