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Editorial: Defunding IRS is a political stunt, and a terrible idea (barf)
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | January 13, 2023 | The Editorial Board

Posted on 01/14/2023 6:25:51 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: MCSETots
The Transportation Dept (and their software problem that grounded flights) has a budget of $105bn and about 58,000 employees.

If we put that dept into Chapter 7 and sold the assets at cost, we could cut a $1.8 million check for each bureaucrat and call it a day.

They'd never go hungry, and we'd save $105bn/yr forever and not skip a beat.

21 posted on 01/14/2023 6:56:31 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: rlmorel

Most filers receive all their income from sources required to file how much they paid to the filers. The forms are all matched electronically. “Ah, you missed 15 dollars in interest” does not require some gun carrying swat team to descend on the filer. They need 87000 more agents like a moose needs a hat rack.


22 posted on 01/14/2023 7:00:40 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Representative Apportionment:

Start with the spending of the government from last year minus funds raised by the Fed from leases, fees, etc. Take last years spending and divide into two equal amounts.
One amount is for the Senate and is further divided by 100 to identify the per Senator amount. The remaining amount is divided by 435 to identify the per Representative amount.

Each state’s tax bill is equal to the sum of (number of Senators x the per Senator amount) and (number of Representatives x the per Representative amount). The state’s tax bill is further divided into 12 equal payments to obtain the monthly payment required.

States are free to raise taxes as needed to meet this amount.


23 posted on 01/14/2023 7:04:08 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Mouton; rlmorel

When I accidentally underpaid my Maryland state tax on my last Maryland tax return I had to do (I moved to Florida), they eventually found me and told me the remaining amount I owed plus a small penalty. They certainly didn’t need an armed goon to tell me that; just a note in my mail.


24 posted on 01/14/2023 7:21:33 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: BenLurkin

Ya....

They go after the lower wage earners because they can’t afford to fight and just pay up.


25 posted on 01/14/2023 7:27:06 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Taxation is theft. It is as simple as that.


26 posted on 01/14/2023 7:27:40 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, my hometown Communist rag.

“Republicans is fer da rich people, Democraps is fer da workin’ man.”

There is no more steel industry in Pittsburgh. Why, oh why are we still overwhelmingly leftist?


27 posted on 01/14/2023 7:31:37 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will, I will!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>Because the IRS doesn’t have the manpower to go after all the big fish, 53% of its audits focus on people making less than $50,000, reports a Syracuse University study.

To fix the problem, the IRS needs more people<<

Right away they belie themselves. If they just use these agents to pursue the rich scofflaws, problem solved. 50% of income earners pay zero or, WORSE, get PAID taxes anyway.


28 posted on 01/14/2023 7:32:33 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To be fair, the IRS delayed this for a year, presumably to get their enforcement mechanisms in place. Now might be a good time to write your congressmen and tell them that is going too far. This does not target people making >$400k. It targets the middle and lower classes.


29 posted on 01/14/2023 7:43:50 AM PST by beef (Say NO to the WOE (War On Energy))
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To: BenLurkin

I would add:

1. “The Big Fish” have the most to lose in an audit-—especially reputation.

2. The Big Fish hire good internal accounting people & excellent CPA’s to do their myriad of tax returns & other reports. Those PROFESSIONALS have their license at stake & they search the IRS tax laws for the most advantageous usage for each client. Tax laws are NOT Oreo cookies-—not all rules work for everyone.

Lower earners rely on Turbo Tax or people in the mall to do their ‘taxes’. EVEN the IRS offers free tax preparation-—are THEY making errors???


30 posted on 01/14/2023 8:14:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What are the chances that they haven’t even printed enough 1099 forms for such reporting?????


31 posted on 01/14/2023 8:15:49 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
"Editorial: Defunding IRS is a political stunt, and a terrible idea (barf)"

As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Regarding Biden's constitutionally indefensible IRS Army run by non-popularly-elected bureaucrats, all that so-called "MAGA" Republicans need to point out is that the Constitution authorizes only Congress, not Executive or Judicial Branches, to arm an army.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming [emphases added], and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

What MAGA Republicans really need to do to help "street-fighter" Trump finish draining the swamp is the following.

The MAGA-controlled House desparately needs to introduce a resolution for Congress to propose an amendment to the Constitution to the states that is strictly limited to repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th Amendments (popular voting for federal senators) (16&17A), little or ideally no discussion required for such an amendment imo.

Repealing 16&17A would effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government.

Although such a resolution is doomed with gridlocked Congress (where are the states?), what patriots initially get out of a repeal 16&17A resolution is seeing more masks fall off remaining RINO lawmakers who vote against resolution that patriots can primary in 2024.

Another thing that MAGA Republicans can do to help Trump drain swamp is to make a law to require the Congressional Budget Office to publicly complain within 24 hours when an appropriations bill contains spending that cannot be reasonably justified under Congress's Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Finally, Trump 47 and Congress need to establish an "Oath Court" based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (14A) that will have original jurisdiction in hearing allegations of abuse of government power by federal or state actors, especially alleged violations of Section 2 of 14A. (Maybe that's why Sections 2 & 3 are consecutively numbered?)

Excerpted from 14A:

Regarding Section 2 of 14A, consider that the post-Civil War congressional Republicans who drafted Section 2 made it to discourage southern Democrats (my word) from rigging the ballot boxes that Democrats are now alleged to have done for 2020, and now 2022 elections!

"Because slavery (except as punishment for crime) had been abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, the freed slaves would henceforth be given full weight for purposes of apportionment. This situation was a concern to the Republican leadership of Congress, who worried that it would increase the political power of the former slave states, even as such states continued to deny freed slaves the right to vote." —Apportionment of Representatives

32 posted on 01/14/2023 8:17:19 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Before 1915, the US had roads, seaports, a strong military, universities, libraries, schools, hospitals, railroads and a strong commercial sector.

It didn’t have an income tax.


33 posted on 01/14/2023 8:19:37 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Sacajaweau
Get rid of the $600 income from sales gimmick...
In addition to adding the additional income to your regular earnings, the money you earn outside of your regular job is subject to 15+% self-employment tax (AKA Social Security).
The only deductions you can take for self-employment income is "cost of goods sold".

I'm not a tax pro. I'm self-employed small business. I do my own taxes.

34 posted on 01/14/2023 8:30:10 AM PST by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No, it is neither.


35 posted on 01/14/2023 8:57:32 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

Andrew Carnegie casts a long shadow.


36 posted on 01/14/2023 9:04:57 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The Editorial Board”

Is that one of those AI thingies I’ve reading about?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4123306/posts

or

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4123282/posts


37 posted on 01/14/2023 9:13:22 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The editorial ADMITS by inference that the income tax violates the Fourteenth Amendment! The rest of the Constitution was not neutered by adoption of the 16th Amendment.

If there is no equal protection under any law, then that law must be stricken. Period.


38 posted on 01/14/2023 9:15:49 AM PST by Go_Raiders (An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

a dream come true


39 posted on 01/14/2023 10:31:04 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: cableguymn

A lot of them are low income and therefore recipients of the Earned Income Credit. There is a lot of fraud in those returns and the IRS sics their agents on these folks to get some fairly easy money.

The IRS goes after the most money the easiest way possible as their goal is to maximize revenue intake to the treasury. If it is going to be difficult to chase a case due to complexity or the amount in dispute is small they will often pass on the case or earmark it for later enforcement.

Note: this does not apply when they are going after a taxpayer for political purposes.


40 posted on 01/14/2023 10:42:09 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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