Posted on 01/11/2023 10:55:51 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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"A Leopard 2 tank company will be handed over as part of the coalition. We want this to be an international coalition and we have decided to include in it a package of a Leopard 2 company, which - I hope - along with other tank companies will soon sail to Ukraine," Duda announced.
"One country cannot provide us with enough tanks, because we are facing thousands of tanks of the Russian Federation," announced Volodymyr Zelensky.
Warsaw has 249 Leopard tanks.
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With the wide variety of weapons that Ukraine is receiving, maintenance, parts, and training must be a nightmare.
Czech Companies to Repair Damaged Ukrainian Tanks https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-04... WebApr 19, 2022 · PRAGUE (Reuters) - Czech defence companies will repair Ukrainian tanks and other military vehicles that have been damaged in fighting or need servicing after …
I’m very happy a Ukrainian leopard received 2 tanks.
The Turks already proved that standard Leopard 2s, like almost all NATO tanks that don’t have APS, are badly vulnerable to Russian Konkurs or Kornet heavy ATGM missiles.
And all tanks are vulnerable to this war’s major tank killer - artillery.
German tanks into Ukraine. Some things never change. Are they trying to find a final solution to this?
The Czech Republic is a long ways away from the front lines in Ukraine.
1970’s designed vehicle will fare well in the UKF, little doubt. The RF hasn’t designed anything to counter Leopard 2’s, yesiree. More unloading of obsolete inventory to be washed away with copious amounts of blood. Let’s goooo!
So two questions, just where will these items be repaired (in the field or depot) and how long will it take? Somebody will need logistics tail for parts and such.
Damaged tank ain’t fixed in a weekend. Guessing weeks/months depending on damage. If electrical/computer ain’t happening anytime soon. Glad to see the Czech’s making some $$$ too.
The Turkish Leopards, IIRC, were hit in the flanks, due to a tactical error.
That would be fatal for all tanks normally.
“German tanks into Ukraine. Some things never change. they trying to find a final solution to this?”
You are talking like a propagandist.
Trying to divide western nations, by referring to old historical clichés..
Unclear which version of Leopard is being supplied.
There have been a range of versions and standard upgrades of the Leopard II over the years since 1991. And different countries have added bits of their own. Indeed, all Russian tanks in actual service are also versions and upgrades of the T-72 and T-80 of the Cold War. The T-90 is just an upgraded T-72.
The real questions get way more detailed than just spouting off about base models.
With the wide variety of weapons that Ukraine is receiving, maintenance, parts, and training must be a nightmare.
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For those who never served, the news is exciting. For those of us whom have served know the nightmare of logistics, and know 1) it is strictly a PR feel good
Move 2) The Ukies will have much difficulty in trying to get all the different tank ammo to the “ end users” in a fluid, constantly moving battlefield.
Imagine the dismay when the 105mm Leopards receive 115mm and 100mm Soviet era tank rounds. The Ukies are now having to deal with three different types of tank gun rounds….and have to move them in civilian pick up truck, from western Ukraine to the eastern front…..
Don’t think so - both sides have the tandem-warhead Konkurs and Kornets and almost no Leopard 2s have the APS needed to force ATGM teams to saturation attack them instead of being able to kill them in single missle engagements.
Understood, thank you. The wunderwaffe trope is just so tiresome.
I assume most equipment is either resold on the black market or destroyed in the field. Thus not around long enough for them to worry about maintenance.
The Turkish Leopards in Syria were engaged on all horizontal aspects - many of the videos put up on Youtube showed flank hits (because hey, most of the ATGM crews weren’t idiots and they weren’t going to engage when the tank is ‘looking’ at them) simply because those flank hits meant that they actually had the opportunity to record the entire engagement (didn’t have to keep their heads down). There are, however, post-engagement pictures of Turkish Leopard wrecks that clearly ate a heavy ATGM on the front glacis or the turret face.
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