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SFPD disproportionately stops Black drivers. A proposed ban could stop that
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Jan. 10, 2023 | Marvin K. White, Claire Amable

Posted on 01/10/2023 10:19:05 AM PST by artichokegrower

Many of us know the names: Sandra Bland, Daunte Wright, Philando Castile, Walter Scott, Sam DuBose. They are just a few of the hundreds of Americans across the country who have been killed by police during a traffic stop. In many of these cases, police had stopped the victim using a practice called “pretext stops” — pulling someone over for a minor traffic or equipment violation and then using that stop to conduct an unrelated speculative criminal investigation, not for the purpose of enforcing the traffic code.

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KEYWORDS: blackthugsmatter; claireamable; donutwatch; marvinwhite
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It can go the other way:

California sheriff's deputy shot dead during traffic stop; suspect killed after chase, shootout

A Southern California sheriff’s deputy was shot and killed Thursday during a traffic stop by a suspect with a violent criminal history who later died after a freeway chase and a shootout.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/30/california-sheriff-deputy-shot-shootout-chase/10970437002/

1 posted on 01/10/2023 10:19:05 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Blacks disproportionately break traffic laws just as they disproportionately commit violent crimes and property crimes.


2 posted on 01/10/2023 10:22:19 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: artichokegrower

And, as usual, the question as to whether blacks violate the law disproportionately more is not allowed to be asked.


3 posted on 01/10/2023 10:22:56 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: artichokegrower
SFPD disproportionately stops Black drivers criminals breaking the law. A proposed ban could stop that... [Fixed the lying propoganda]
4 posted on 01/10/2023 10:24:22 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: artichokegrower

San Fernasco needs to start issuing a “proportionate” number of licenses to “black” motorists. Too many blacks have licenses. That’s the problem.


5 posted on 01/10/2023 10:26:48 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Amerika! The whole world is watching and laughing their asses off. )
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To: artichokegrower

It can’t be too be too big of a problem. They don’t have IDs to drive according to their masters.


6 posted on 01/10/2023 10:27:41 AM PST by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: thegagline
Blacks disproportionately break traffic laws just as they disproportionately commit violent crimes and property crimes.

The black traffic fatality rate has also skyrocketed since the Summer of Mostly Peaceful Protests.

7 posted on 01/10/2023 10:28:25 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: artichokegrower

Police are not allowed to stop blacks committing traffic violations or committing other crimes.

There are unwritten rules stemming from the Black Lives Matter issue, and they have become a protected race, and can’t be touched. However, black lives don’t matter when the crimes committed are blacks against blacks. What’s needed then is, black law enforcement officers to go after blacks committing crimes (but don’t expect law enforcement to be rule in those cases).


8 posted on 01/10/2023 10:28:33 AM PST by adorno
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To: artichokegrower

Guess we’ll have to start training white people to learn how to drive a lot worse. I recommend a large scale program where we recruit white people to attend reckless driving classes.

Maybe offer financial incentives to whites to learn how to drive crappy. Payouts of $500-1,000 per month to remain in the program.

Also stop maintaining their vehicles and break out some tail light lenses and headlights.


9 posted on 01/10/2023 10:34:27 AM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: thegagline

“Blacks disproportionately break traffic laws”

Do you have statistics on that?

For the latter two, yes there are statistics, but I couldn’t find anything on traffic law breaking.


10 posted on 01/10/2023 10:36:06 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: adorno

“There are unwritten rules stemming from the Black Lives Matter issue, and they have become a protected race, and can’t be touched.”

Blacks can be called out into the streets to riot and create mayhem and chaos fairly easily. It takes more than a drug dealer killed by police to rally whites in that manner. Frankly I don’t know what it would take to really pi$$ of whites to the point of actually doing something. Long gone are the days of the Battle of Athens.


11 posted on 01/10/2023 10:36:32 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: artichokegrower

By the sounds of rising black crime they should be stopping a lot more of them.


12 posted on 01/10/2023 10:39:04 AM PST by Candor7 ( )
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To: Cronos

It’s not just violating it.

If some violations are worth more than others, say incur higher fines, are more dangerous, and blacks are committing more of those, then they might still get ticketed more frequently than white committing fewer of the other variety.


13 posted on 01/10/2023 10:42:12 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: artichokegrower

I’m guessing that the great majority of these traffic stops are legit.

But then again...the police in a community near me had a secret radio code phrase, something like “light traffic on Main Street”. Whenever a black driver entered the community, the code phrase went out. And the car was stopped on some pretext.

This only ended when a driver got into an altercation with a cop, and somebody thought to examine the radio logs.

I’m not saying the SFPD did anything like that. It could be a very rare thing. But it is the other side of the coin.


14 posted on 01/10/2023 10:43:21 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: thegagline
Yes. Police officers would rather not make traffic stops. They would rather not stop colored drivers in particular, because those are often the most dangerous stops to make. The idea that police officers set out to enforce the law based on race is false.

15 posted on 01/10/2023 10:43:34 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Candor7

The people most likely to be harmed by allowing blacks to violate traffic laws are other blacks.

Deep State knows this and doesn’t care.


16 posted on 01/10/2023 10:44:18 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: artichokegrower

apples and oranges- how many black drivers compared to white drivers drive at any given moment there/ I’m bettign that the black drivers far outnumber white drivers in areas, and break more rules as a result


17 posted on 01/10/2023 10:45:24 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: Common Sense 101

Needs Repeating

SFPD disproportionately stops Black drivers criminals breaking the law. A proposed ban could stop that... [Fixed the lying propoganda


18 posted on 01/10/2023 10:46:10 AM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I’m a lifelong NYSer.

And I ain’t a spring chicken.

Whenever I am out driving since the lockdown ended I now routinely see drivers running red lights.

Every time I am out.

Sometimes more than one driver.

I have never witnessed this before in my life.

And you’re right about cops not making traffic stops.

And I’ve gotten that from the horse’s mouth.


19 posted on 01/10/2023 10:46:43 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: bk1000

How about start by severely decreasing/ eliminating the 100% revenue generating traffic MV enforcement?

e.g...
75mph on the highway (65 speed limit)
putting speeds ridiculously low, or hidden speed limit signs.

“rolling” through stop sign. “complete stop”

Didn’t use directional x feet from use

Not waiting at a 10 minute long red light at 3am, when there are no cars for miles around.

not using seat belts
etc etc etc.


20 posted on 01/10/2023 10:47:14 AM PST by uranium penguin
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