Posted on 01/03/2023 8:45:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
What is the discipline of apologetics?
A term most often used in reference to the Christian faith — you may have heard of noted apologists like C.S. Lewis or R.C. Sproul — apologetics is a “systematic argumentative discourse” to intellectually defend a particular viewpoint. Using reason and logic leaves no room for fallacy or emotionality, strengthening the defender’s position and weakening the opposition’s.
With that in mind, take a look at what President Trump said below:
Trump blames pro-lifers, the most loyal voting bloc the Republican Party has had for more than 40 years, for the disappointing midterms. This is self-immolation in real time. You can’t make this stuff up.
pic.twitter.com/2RFYQM80pG — Steve Deace (@SteveDeaceShow) January 1, 2023
Let’s hone in on one thing:
It was the ‘abortion issue,’ poorly handled by many Republicans, especially those that firmly insisted on No Exceptions, even in the case of Rape, Incest, or Life of the Mother….
As you can see, Steve Deace castigated the president, as did many in the comments.
From someone who is a Christian, an anti-abortion absolutist, and still solidly behind my president, all I glean from President Trump’s statement is that he is capable of erring, and in need of a crash course in anti-abortion apologetics. So let’s get to it….
(Let me preface this by defining the scope of my argument within the realm of the natural world — I can’t begin to cover a transhumanist reality.)
When does a human life begin? The objective answer would be that life begins at the moment of conception. How do we know that? Well because before that moment, that entirely unique set of DNA did not exist,
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Is taking the life of an innocent person wrong? Yes of course, ergo, abortion as we’ve defined it is always wrong, because it is an intentional act to exact a death penalty on someone undeserving — and this is where President Trump falls victim to fallacy.
If abortion is wrong because it kills an innocent person, then tragic circumstances of conception are not grounds to end a life. Concede to the “rape and incest” position, the entire anti-abortion movement collapses in on itself, and you become no different than the pro-murder leftist.
“Compromise” says this: The right to life begins at conception, unless... the child is the product of rape or incest… or the child will grow up in poverty… or the mother isn’t ready to be a mother…. It’s all the same. Two wrongs do not make a right, and what kind of “justice” sees an innocent person pay in place of the guilty?
Pro-life apologists often show people two images, two ultrasounds of two children in the womb. Their cherubic profiles with little noses and little lips, little legs and little feet. They lay out this hypothetical: “One of these children was conceived in an incestuous rape; which one needs to die for their father’s sin?” Of course, these children are indistinguishable from one another, and you cannot deny their humanity.
If abortion was a big effect on the midterms how come the Republicans won a bunch of seats they shouldn’t have in New York Northern Virginia California and other places where abortion should have been much bigger deal?
Olivia Murray is a simp.
We weren’t “never to be seen again”. We were largely shut out from the media brouhaha, and worked on the ground game. SBA List was very active, they just weren’t on the channels Trump watches.
This is not Trump’s best issue for presentation, but he actually acted as president (and not just on judicial picks), so I give him credit for that.
Abortion is not an issue that lends itself to “The Art of the Deal”.
Deep State’s divide and conquer campaign is continuing apace, I see.
Nope.
Not playing.
Trump is wrong on this one and I am disappointed with him on this. His actions were great in the pro-life agenda so I hope he doesn’t go soft now.
One of the reasons my first wife became my first wife (her choice) was that she became a proto-woke academic and I remained an evidence-and-reason academic. Whenever we had intellectual discussions, my evidence and reason generally squashed her myths and feelings, at which point she would complain that I was attacking her like a steamroller and never giving value to her views. It's why attempting to be reasonable to anyone with any level of wokeness is a fool's errand. However...
"It was the ‘abortion issue,’ poorly handled by many Republicans, especially those that firmly insisted on No Exceptions, even in the case of Rape, Incest, or Life of the Mother…."
Sorry, Donald, this is a hill to die on, or as E-Knock puts it, "Don't you hold me back, I would die for this." If you want to lose me and a few million of your followers, just keep doing what you're doing.
Olivia, Lindsey Graham proposed a nation wide ban just before the election. That was an unforced error on his part. It drove up democrat fervor, and was entirely unnecessary.
The issue has been sent back to the states, where it belongs. Fedgov agitating for laws to enforce or ban abortion should be completely off the table.
You offer an apologetics class to reaffirm the basic stance of pro lifers, but you do not address the constitutional matter of fedgov not belonging in the abortion debate.
LOL...sounds like a petulant teenager...” It wasn’t my fault”...said in a high whiney voice...:)
The only answer that ever needs to be given is:
“It’s a state issue. You want it otherwise work on a Constitutional amendment.”
The fact is, there are any anti-abortion people that advocate for “no exceptions” including for “the life of the mother”. I’ve never heard of a single person that fits that description, much less a whole bloc.
Trump goes after arguably the most loyal members of his base. Stable genius.
He really does. You can almost hear the air coming out of the 2024 balloon.
It was not abortion.
Problem here is people go by what the press say that trump said and the first wrong paradigm that trump says what he thinks. Watch what he does. Always
Trump takes no responsibility for his own endorsements and failures.
That may have worked in 2016, but it does not work any longer.
When you open with “it wasn’t my fault”, you’re not really projecting a winning leadership stance.
Trump is brave enough to take a stance, unlike most Republicans who pander
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