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To: MinorityRepublican

As opposed to what? Losing the war? Letting Russia have the natural resources of Ukraine? Those natural resources are valued #4 in the world!

You let Russia have those and suddenly Russia has an even larger monopoly control over energy and gas for Europe than they had before.

They’ll also have steel and weapons factories that you wouldn’t want to have in the hands of an aggressor country.

And they will also have major control of grain markets in Europe.

If you think this war is expensive, lose it and see how much the next one costs!!!

This war is cheap. It’s not costing any American lives. We’re drawing support from the whole world. And we’re spending 2.6% of our annual budget, to have the world’s second largest army beat down.

It’s important that we defend the principles embodied by the UN that countries don’t invade and take their neighbor’s land. If you don’t defend this, you will have aggressor states starting wars all over the world. And then what? Are we going to fight all those wars, are wait until the aggressors get so big they pick fights with us?

Learn from WWI and WWII.


3 posted on 12/20/2022 10:12:41 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
As opposed to what? Losing the war? Letting Russia have the natural resources of Ukraine? Those natural resources are valued #4 in the world!

Get a grip. Russia has zero interest in Ukraine's resources. That's not why they're fighting this war. Russia has plenty of resources for hundreds of years, in fact, too many resources. They don't have the population to harness those resources. They have a people problem, not a natural resource problem.

In order for Ukraine to win back their lost territories, Ukraine needs at least 100,000 US/NATO troops to fight the Russians in Ukraine. This is the neocon dream, but unwillingness to deploy those troops is their obstacle. That's the point of this article.

8 posted on 12/20/2022 10:41:50 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: DannyTN

The ruble is trading at a 4yr high and Vlad is receiving times prices for his oil and gas vs 4yrs ago. His entire existence is based on the value of the ruble and oil/gas prices. That all equals Ukraine winning to Team Narrative.

This while the US economy is floundering in part due to sanctions that are obv helping him and not hurting him.

I’m reminded of the Who song-Won’t Get Fooled Again.
PS The EU sabotaged their own energy capacity, their own food supplies and have completely and totally decimated their defense budgets in favor of social spending-why should we be on the hook?


9 posted on 12/20/2022 10:42:09 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: DannyTN

What benefit does the US get from those resources?

If they are so valuable, the ukrainians should have properly armed, trained and funded their army.

Not like Russia invading was a surprise to anyone.

We’re bankrupting the US to launder money via Ukraine. I do not see a benefit to doing this.


12 posted on 12/20/2022 10:43:58 PM PST by SPDSHDW (Ya’ll knew he was installed via fraud, and chose to do nothing. Enjoy the roller coaster ride.)
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To: DannyTN
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine Can Win the War. But the Cost May Be Too High for the West., DannyTN wrote:

DannyTN: As opposed to what? Losing the war? Letting Russia have the natural resources of Ukraine? Those natural resources are valued #4 in the world!'

ransomnote: NATO should never have overthrown the Ukraine and installed their puppet, signed the Minsk Agreements in order to stall so they could build the Ukrainian army (According to Merkel), and provoked Russia after decades of warnings not to do so. THEN those natural resources could be retained in the Ukraine, but NATO and their puppet regime in the Ukraine wouldn't listen to reason.

DannyTN: You let Russia have those and suddenly Russia has an even larger monopoly control over energy and gas for Europe than they had before.

ransomnote: For some reason, NATO bet it all on their ability to destroy Russia through a proxy war in the Urkaine.

DannyTN: They’ll also have steel and weapons factories that you wouldn’t want to have in the hands of an aggressor country.

ransomnote: Stop provoking Russia to defend itself this way and you won't have to worry about offensive actions from Russia.

DannyTN: And they will also have major control of grain markets in Europe.

If you think this war is expensive, lose it and see how much the next one costs!!!

ransomnote: Can it equal the $144 Billion US dollars in 10 months flushed down the toilet in a proxy war in the Ukraine in an attempt to safeguard the Deep State's headquarters and money laundering capital of the world? 

DannyTN: This war is cheap.

ransomnote: Are you crazy?

DannyTN: It’s not costing any American lives.

ransomnote: None that they are admitting to. But they do send in 'contractors' to operate military hardware donated to the proxy war, and those contracters are newly 'retired' military that will resume their military careers after they leave Ukraine.

Also, the military sent an advance team and is showing all the signs of preparing to send in ground troops. They'll do this because they are desperate to save the Deep State assets housed in the Ukraine. Biden and others will grind up as many soldiers and dollars as needed to protect their Deep State hub in the Ukraine.

DannyTN: We’re drawing support from the whole world. And we’re spending 2.6% of our annual budget, to have the world’s second largest army beat down.

ransomnote: We shouldn't have spent $107 billion, and promised another $40 billion on a conflict that only serves Deep State interests. The citizens in the Ukraine deserve our prayers because they are being used as human shields, human sacrifices, and canon fodder in this proxy war.

DannyTN: It’s important that we defend the principles embodied by the UN that countries don’t invade and take their neighbor’s land.

ransomnote: The UN exists to overthrow countries. It uses it's blather about its missions to hide the fact that they were purpose built to destabilize countries, offer 'peace keepers' prone to child trafficking/human trafficking/drug running, then use the 'peace keepers' to prop up the latest puppet regime of the UN's choosing. The UN is evil and part of a corrupt system so don't talk to me about their 'principles'.

DannyTN: If you don’t defend this, you will have aggressor states starting wars all over the world. And then what? Are we going to fight all those wars, are wait until the aggressors get so big they pick fights with us?

ransomnote: NATO is a little more strategic and selective about the wars they start. It's good that their proxy war in the Ukraine is expending their resources or they'd start more wars more often. They are still angling for WWIII. That's why they had their puppet Zelensky fire on Poland and blame Russia.

DannyTN: Learn from WWI and WWII.

ransomnote: I should hope we learned not to have anything to do with Nazi's after WWII, but here were are, propping up the Zelensky regime, with it's neo Nazi Azov military.

 


24 posted on 12/20/2022 11:29:51 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DannyTN

As opposed to what? Losing the war? Letting Russia have the natural resources of Ukraine? Those natural resources are valued #4 in the world!

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28 posted on 12/20/2022 11:35:47 PM PST by Nashcash
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To: DannyTN

This is not America’s war to lose. Ukraine’s fate is none of the USA’s business. Americans have no strategic interest in Ukraine and the country is not a member of NATO.

The horribly corrupt country is only of importance to crooked American politicians who have been screwing the Ukrainian people out of their money and resources for many years.

The Department of Defense of the USA has financed, built and maintained several dozen bioweapons labs in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland of the U.S. State Department admitted their existence and the terrible danger they posed during her public testimony earlier this year.

This is an internationally recognized “crime against humanity” for which those Americans responsible could be found guilty by an international tribunal (as in the Nuremberg trials of Nazi’s - 1945-1949) and hanged.


33 posted on 12/21/2022 1:13:39 AM PST by Gnome1949
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To: DannyTN

Danny, we have been telling you this for months. I have warned repeatedly that your fearless leader Biden could t pull it off. Look at what the senile old goat did in Afghanistan. If America keeps this up the economy of the West will collapse and there will not be enough weapons to fight off China’s territorial aggressions.


50 posted on 12/21/2022 3:56:03 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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To: DannyTN

I’ve seen a lot of nonsense in my day, but yours takes the cake for the most retarded post I’ve read in years.


57 posted on 12/21/2022 4:07:09 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: DannyTN

“As opposed to what? Losing the war? Letting Russia have the natural resources of Ukraine? Those natural resources are valued #4 in the world!”

You might want to read up a bit on the West’s plans to ‘decarbonize’. If Ukraine wins, their Puppet Masters in the EU WILL NOT allow significant development of those resources (mostly carbon-based fuels), and will have them FULLY shutdown by 2050, and mostly shut down much earlier.

At least Russia will develop those resources and make them available, as they don’t let an insane girl from Sweden run their energy policy.


72 posted on 12/21/2022 6:18:44 AM PST by BobL
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To: DannyTN

Shut your ridiculous, blathering clown-hole... ridiculous blathering clown.


76 posted on 12/21/2022 6:40:58 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: DannyTN; dennisw; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr; ought-six; Timber Rattler; SpeedyInTexas; ...

An excellent list of reasons to support Ukraine. For those who don’t know, in 2012 Ukraine signed exploration contracts with major US oil companies to seek gas and oil around Crimea as well as in and near the Donbas. If you thought Putin suddenly developed a concern for the Russian speakers in Crimea in 2014, think again. The exploration contracts became toast, with that invasion and the “little green men” fomenting struggle in eastern Ukraine.

Personally, I can’t think of a more necessary way for my tax dollars to be spent. This fall two of my grandsons have joined the US army, and I am both proud and worried.


87 posted on 12/23/2022 9:48:00 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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