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'They are just meat to Putin… and we are the meat grinder': Ukrainian soldier says 'conveyor belt' of Russian troops are being cut down as Battle of Bakhmut descends into 'First World war hell'
MAILONLINE ^ | 9 December 2022 | CHRIS PLEASANCE

Posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw

Putin promised the Russian people that Donbas would be liberated. And the path to that goal - however fantastical - lies through Bakhmut. So the show must go on.

The battle is more symbolic than practical. Analysts agree the blood price that Russia has paid trying to take Bakhmut - thought to be more than 100 troops per day - is not worth the value of capturing it.

'They are just meat to Putin,' a commander named Kostyantyn told the FT on a visit to the front. 'And Bakhmut is a meat grinder. For what? A f****** metre of our land.'

Witnesses called it 'First World War' trench warfare, with Russian troops sent into a 'meat grinder' of Ukrainian machine gun nests under artillery barrage

The battle for Bakhmut has descended into a hell-scape reminiscent of the First World War as Putin throws troops into a fight described as 'a meat grinder'.

Russia is pounding Ukrainian trenches in the city - once home to 70,000 but now little more than a ruin - day and night with artillery before troops charge into front-on attacks against machine gun nests.

Now littered with shell holes, skeletons of trees shredded by shell-fire, and bodies of dead soldiers in eerie echoes of Passchendaele, Ypres or the Somme more than 100 years ago.

Leading the charge, for the last several months are Yevgeny Prigozhin's feared Wagner Group mercenaries.

Having triumphed in the battle for Mariupol earlier in the war alongside Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen mercenaries, Prigozhin appears to have taken on the mission to Bakhmut as a way to raise his personal standing with Putin.

That effort, at least, appears to have been successful: Russia has officially acknowledged the existence of Wagner and allowed its leader to set up office in a swanky new skyscraper.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw
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Vlad Putin — The man and his meat grinder. The sooner he croaks from cancer, the better. Vlad is the greatest killer of Russian men since Joe Stalin. Who Putin idolizes.


2 posted on 12/11/2022 9:51:45 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Military Operation in Ukraine on December 9, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtRyFVM0ATs


4 posted on 12/11/2022 9:55:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: dennisw

Propaganda levels of this one push the needle to the end of the gauge.


5 posted on 12/11/2022 9:59:25 AM PST by Codeflier (Screw Ukraine. America is burning, and we need to concentrate on our own collapse taking place)
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To: dennisw

What is any war, against any opponent? I am sure the Russians are being fed a steady diet of “we are the good fighting the evil”. Just like we in America are about Covid, the Taliban, War on Terror, War on Drugs et al.


6 posted on 12/11/2022 10:00:20 AM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: hardspunned

Please learn to read. His post was about feeding RUSSIAN boys into the Ukrainian meat grinder.


7 posted on 12/11/2022 10:01:03 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin
Please learn to read. His post was about feeding RUSSIAN boys into the Ukrainian meat grinder.

Please learn to comprehend. This is any war.

8 posted on 12/11/2022 10:08:59 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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May Ukraine get all the weapons they need asap.

May it be so!


9 posted on 12/11/2022 10:11:33 AM PST by Sunsong
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10 posted on 12/11/2022 10:18:36 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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Putin sends “meat” what does Zelensky send to die in his front lines?


11 posted on 12/11/2022 10:19:31 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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12 posted on 12/11/2022 10:19:50 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: hardspunned

Dennis onesided forgets that even the NYT reported how badly the Ukrainian military is being tore up, which corroborates what Ursula said about Ukrainian troop losses and what the leaking of Ukrainian documents on Telegram and Twitter a few months back related, that Ukraine is losing at least 2.5X more soldiers than Russia is, which is unsustainable for Ukraine.


13 posted on 12/11/2022 10:20:05 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: BlackbirdSST
Please learn to comprehend. This is any war.

Aye, a war the RUSSIANS started.

14 posted on 12/11/2022 10:20:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: dennisw

Yevgeny Prigozhin’s feared Wagner Group mercenaries


Prigozhin made it clear that taking Bakhmut is not the objective, the objective is to kill as many high value Ukrainian troops as possible using low value Russian convicts whose mission is to kill and die.


15 posted on 12/11/2022 10:20:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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16 posted on 12/11/2022 10:20:54 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Salohcin

Please learn to read

Trolls don’t read. not their job.


17 posted on 12/11/2022 10:21:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Timber Rattler
Aye, a war the RUSSIANS started.

Can you say anything less relevant?

18 posted on 12/11/2022 10:23:32 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Dennis onesided forgets that even the NYT reported how badly the Ukrainian military is being tore up, which corroborates what Ursula said about Ukrainian troop losses

You are a member in good standing in the FR Putin/Stalin contingent. That demands Ukraine to surrender, due to Russia's overwhelming forces. And of course Globohomo....If you were a 30 year old Ukrainian man would you roll over for Putin's invasion? Or would you pick up arms to fight Russians?

19 posted on 12/11/2022 10:33:57 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Sunsong

“May Ukraine get all the weapons they need asap.”

When this is over with, and US backed former state of Ukraine is swallowed whole, one half of FR will be found wandering the halls of mental institutions in George Patton outfits pretending they’re in an old movie.


20 posted on 12/11/2022 10:34:53 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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