War and Regrets in Ukraine

The American Conservative ^ | Oct 19,2022 | Douglas Macgregor

[Vlad0]

A thoughtful article for those who are still able to think about this topic. (Obviously, many here are not interested in any further analysis, just more war.)

Read the whole thing at:

The American Conservative

[Travis McGee]

[Navy Patriot]

Bump for later read.

[Don Corleone]

No one in the White House, the Senate etc,

I beg to disagree. There are bunches that favor and relish war. They don't have to fight it. They only profit from it.

[Timber Rattler]

Yeah, if the US and NATO just give Comrade Putin everything he wants, then the evil man will go away.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Yeah, if the US and NATO just give Comrade Putin everything he wants, then the evil man will go away.

Who isn’t evil?

[Jan_Sobieski]

One Word: C O N F L A G R A T I O N

[JonPreston]

[marktwain]

Oh. This is McGregor...

[AZJeep]

Why?
Putin seems to be going defeated on cheap!

[Vlad0]

Impromptu Ukraine Ping List

I have assembled this list without preference to orientation, both pro-Ukraine and anti-Ukraine factions.

Let's surprise ourselves and try to discuss the article and the issues it raises, and avoid ad-hominem attacks on those you disagree with. I know this is hard and that this is a very contentious issue.

Just this once, to see if we can do it, OK!

Special Incentive: If we can I'll reward everyone with a free-for-all thread tomorrow!

Note on Source: The American Conservative, frequently referred to as TAC by readers, was founded by Pat Buchanan, Scott McConnell and Taki Theodoracopulos in 2002 to oppose the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which the main "Conservative" outlets were all pimping for, having been taken over by, or created by, Neocons. (National Review, The Weekly Standard, Commentary, etc.)

At the time many of the founding writers at National Review had already been "purged" by National Review under Buckley for divergence from his credo. These included not only Pat Buchanan by the great Sam Francis and many others.

The ownership and editorship of TAC has changed, but they maintain their identity as a paleo-conservative outlet.

[Travis McGee]

What's old is new.

[familyop]

Hackers show naval drone attack on Russian warships on Crimean TV channels
https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/10/29/hackers-attack-key-russian-propagandistic-channels-in-crimea-after-the-blasts-in-sevastopol/

"Combat mosquitoes" follow "dirty bomb": Russian representative to UN tells more frenzy lies
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/28/7373988/

Russia Preparing for 'Something Disastrous': Khrushchev Great-Granddaughter
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-preparing-something-disastrous-khrushchev-great-granddaughter-1755536

Elon Musk floated his pro-Kremlin Ukraine peace plan at a private summit 10 days before tweeting it, report says
https://www.businessinsider.com/musk-floated-ukraine-peace-plan-at-summit-before-tweeting-nyt-2022-10

[DesertRhino]

“No one in the White House, the Senate, or the House consciously set out to turn the proxy Ukrainian war with Moscow into a contest of “competitive societal collapse” between Russia and NATO. But here we are”

Actually, that was exactly and precisely the plan.

[Vlad0]

Did you read the article?

Thanks for reposting the same links that have already been spammed on 20 other Free Republic threads!

That’s tight!

[familyop]

176 ships were already being blocked from exporting Ukrainian grain before the damage was done to the Russian ships near occupied Crimea.

Russia Slammed for 'Food Terrorism' After Suspending Ukraine Grain Deal
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-slammed-food-terrorism-after-suspending-ukraine-grain-deal-1755601

[Vlad0]

The core of the issue:

Yet there is also a measure of “true faith” at work, a condition of national narcissism, inside the Beltway that believes Washington can control what happens thousands of miles away in Eastern Ukraine. The message resonates in Congress because it rests on a critical strategic assumption that American citizens have yet to challenge: that American national power is limitless and unconstrained—as though a series of strategic failures, from Vietnam to Afghanistan, never happened.

[Timber Rattler]

You guy Macgregor is a buffoon and a Kremlin toadie who's on Putin's payroll via Russia Today (RT).

'nuff said.

[unclebankster]

“Who isn’t evil?”

Its hard to tell in international relations.

[familyop]

After seeing that the piece was written by Douglas Macgregor, it was obvious that the thread needed some interesting real news about the topic of the Russian invasion in Ukraine.