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To: SoConPubbie

NATO has refused the Ukraine to join in 2004 and 2022.

I guess the writer wasn’t aware of that.


3 posted on 10/16/2022 6:39:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

and that is a past tense-—span of time. only thing keeping them from taking them in is the fact that finally, FINALLY, President Trump got most of them to finally PAY up the % GDP they haven’t been paying for decades. So now Bidenski and our detached from US FIRST mil industrial cheneybots— see the profit in trying to force them to give up their own final recognition of their full participation— so we can get the money to the Ukes to get the money back to the mil-industrials. Fighting the last war—against a non-Soviet Russia. Makes sense to Xi Ping who is framing the shots.


7 posted on 10/16/2022 6:46:55 PM PDT by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DoughtyOne

No,

We refused. NATO is our club.

And in October 2021 we did offer it. Maybe you’re unaware or can’t remember that?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/. (in case your memory fails)

The issue here is that this affects other people, i.e. Russia and when you ignore what others say and want and just do whatever you want, and this includes cheating (Minsk agreement), backpedalling out of promises made (ballistic missile treaty), and lying about NATO East expansion, you end up with a war. This is an issue where Russia feels threatened and it became that way when we transitioned from arming Ukraine to wanting to bring them into NATO.

This isn’t even a war NATO started. It’s not a war the EU started. None of them have the balls. Not even the Ukraine started this war. They jump when we tell them too. We did this. This is a war where we are 100% responsible and in particular the Biden administration. That was their call in October 2021, no one else.


12 posted on 10/16/2022 6:55:05 PM PDT by Red6
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