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To: Redmen4ever
The U.S. kicked butt in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Yes, and Vietnam, resulting in the FINAL and complete loss of each of those as allies of America, and each was a more disastrous loss than the previous until the final humiliation in Afghanistan.

However, Ukraine can top that.

The Ukrainians are different (and so are the Kurdish-Iraqis).

No, they are not.

There’s a reason our national anthem ends “the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

And about half of America refuses to allow the playing of the National Anthem, to stand and to sing it in public gatherings in America.

The reason America cannot win the the long haul is because of the Politicians and Unelected Government Bureaucrats, not because the American Military doesn't deliver wins for the Government to throw away, and Ukraine will be the worst yet.

122 posted on 09/06/2022 10:16:00 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

“The U.S. kicked butt in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Yes, and Vietnam, resulting in the FINAL and complete loss of each of those as allies of America ... “

Those places’ loss of freedom was on them, not on us. Our army wasn’t stopped the way the your army was. The armies of those places lost after we left. Furthermore, the U.S. survived those loses. The U.S. didn’t fall apart the way the Soviet Union fell apart after losing in Afghanistan. Those wars were wars of choice for us, because we are very powerful and productive. The Soviet Union pretended to be a world power when it was hardly a regional power. The Soviet Union’s war in Afghanistan was an existential war for it because it was nowhere near as powerful or productive as we are. Putin has now bet the future of present-day Russia on winning in Ukraine. It’s either get out now, hope that North Korea will come to Russia’s rescue, or see Russia collapse.

“The Ukrainians are different [than the Afghans and the Arab-Iraqis] (and so are the Kurdish-Iraqis).

No, they are not.”

Clearly, Putin needs to hire better liars than you.


123 posted on 09/06/2022 10:51:26 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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