[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I think some suffering now to demonstrate resolve in the face of international aggression is preferable to the much greater suffering likely to happen down the road if we don't.

War as an instrument of national policy to achieve geopolitical gains is intolerable. The disruption caused by this conflict with Russia is orders of magnitude less than if China were decide to try a similar play with Taiwan.

[Robert DeLong]

What percentage of the population in Europe do you suspect will be suffering? What percentage is already behind the 8-ball? Just how much suffering is acceptable in your opinion?

You keep saying that Europe is not suffering and that the U.S. is not on her knees.

I keep telling you that if the dollar is dethroned, we will be flat on our backs. We are on our knees with this insane spending going on, you just do not see it because we are the world's currency. When it comes time to pay the Piper, you will see that reality, in spades. But you fail to comprehend exactly what I am saying, and state that I am avoiding your statement. No, you are avoid the reality, and I am trying to get you to realize just how bad our situation really is. We are literally teetering on the precipice of total collapse.