Biden Justice Department sues Idaho over state's abortion restrictions in first post-Dobbs lawsuit

CNN ^ | August 2, 2022 | Hannah Rabinowitz and Veronica Stracqualursi

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The Biden administration filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Idaho for restricting access to abortion to patients who need lifesaving medical treatment, the first such Justice Department challenge since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade this summer.

Idaho's near-total abortion ban, which will take effect later this month, would make it nearly impossible, according to the Justice Department. for patients who need an abortion in emergency medical situations, such as an ectopic pregnancy or other complications, from receiving potentially lifesaving treatment.

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I searched in vain for a micron of standing. None found.

[Tell It Right]

100 years from now the Dims will be saying the parties “switched sides” on abortion just like they lie today about the parties switching sides on slavery and segregation.

[FlyingEagle]

Let’s face it. These wicked evil spirits could care less about ectopic pregnancy. That is not what it’s about.

[bray]

Oregon’s Governor Candidate said she would allow them to come to Oregon where we will pay for a late term abortion.

[blackdog]

"The Biden administration filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Idaho for restricting access to abortion to patients who need lifesaving medical treatment, the first such Justice Department challenge since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade."

Can anyone there besides me see a complete contradiction of objectives? Now I know why we have to accept man is woman. If you buy that, killing is lifesaving. Murder is rescue. Pregnancy is a deadly disease. War is peace.

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100 years from now the Dims will be saying the parties “switched sides” on abortion just like they lie today about the parties switching sides on slavery and segregation.

Yep, and they'll depict fake, pedophilic "doctors" Alfred Kinsey and John Money as conservative Republicans, too.

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Correct. Even where abortion is banned outright, without ANY exceptions, the ending of ectopic pregnancies will still be fully legal, since they can easily kill a woman.

[avital2]

i keep reading that the ectopic argument is bogus - it’s not an abortion.

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i keep reading that the ectopic argument is bogus - it’s not an abortion.

Exactly. The fetus implanted OUTSIDE the uterus. It's not a pregnancy.

[viewfromthefrontier]

To purposely murder the child is immoral. To do a life-saving procedure on the mother that results in the child dying - but killing the child is not the goal - is morally acceptable.

Ectopic pregnancies and some other emergencies during pregnancy fall under the morally acceptable category.

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Exactly.

[ComputerGuy]

Screw the courts.

[Revel]

Idaho needs to file a counter-suit for a violation of its rights.

[traderrob6]

Probably because it does not exist.

[antidemoncrat]

I hope if when the terrorists take advantage of the fools in this administration they attack DC.

[Lockbox]

1. I did not find the exception "access to abortion to patients who need lifesaving medical treatment" mentioned in Supreme Court Ruling....

2. An ectopic pregnancy

One of many complications of the abortion debate is that lawmakers are defining medical terms differently than doctors.

“Ohio law doesn’t follow medicine,” said Case Western Reserve University law professor Jessie Hill. “So the definitions of things in Ohio law are not going to track the medical definitions.”

This is true for something as simple as the definition of an abortion. According to medicine, an abortion is defined as the termination of a pregnancy that has already implanted inside the uterus, explained doctor Catherine Romanos of the Women’s Medical Center in Dayton.

Medically, continued Romano, the termination of a fertilized embryo in an IVF clinic is not an abortion. Contraception -- including emergency contraception -- which prevents the implantation of an embryo, is not an abortion. Likewise the treatment of an ectopic pregnancy -- a pregnancy where the embryo has implanted anywhere other than the uterus -- is also not an abortion.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/07/legal-experts-say-supreme-court-abortion-decision-has-raised-myriad-ethical-legal-dilemmas.html

[cableguymn]

let John Roberts do the hard work.

he’ll find it when it gets to him.

[frank ballenger]

Heard the corrupt Michigan pols say today “minority” women don’t have enough money to go to another state for an abortion so this stuff is racist.

I’m sure the Dems will solve this by “throwing money at the problem” (1960s GOP slogan against the Dems)-—OUR money.

[frank ballenger]

As soon as I heard of the first DC Justice Dept. action I thought of the term “bullying.”

DOJ has the immense power to crush anyone at any time. Back in the desegregation days they sent troops along with agents.

I hate bullies since junior high when I was briefly bullied.
No one helped me. Part of my anger issues.

[butlerweave]

States are in charge now Joe so mind your own business