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There may never be another new refinery built in America: It is the same situation that slowed and eventually halted the construction of new nuclear power plants
Hotair ^ | 06/20/2022 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 06/20/2022 9:23:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/20/2022 9:23:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Some of the existing ones have been expanded and upgraded so much, they may as well be new plants.


2 posted on 06/20/2022 9:25:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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When a refinery is closed down, skilled workers scatter to the wind. Some of them retire. Some of them migrate to better and more secure jobs. So even if the government gave permission for a closed refinery to reopen, it would take a long time to get it back on-line.

We are so screwed.


3 posted on 06/20/2022 9:37:29 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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“There may never be another new refinery built in America”

This probably could have been concluded 20-25 years ago.


4 posted on 06/20/2022 9:41:24 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: SeekAndFind

American environmentalist are often nutty fruitcakes who are willing to destroy the nation over their idolatrous devotion to nature.

Electric cars? Yeah, right, like they have not and would not still fight tooth and nail to prevent ever expanding the power grid.


5 posted on 06/20/2022 9:42:57 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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A serious number of ‘Rats need to be Che’d.


6 posted on 06/20/2022 9:43:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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We should be building 10 new refineries and 20 new nuclear power plants - if the
cretins who populate our government had any brains.


7 posted on 06/20/2022 9:48:29 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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Gas is going remain expensive. We might experience a respite in prices at times (Trump may get reelected in 2024) but it’ll only be temporary.


8 posted on 06/20/2022 9:48:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Nah.... just revoke their citizenship and ban them to Cuba, never to return.


9 posted on 06/20/2022 9:49:44 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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I agree .44%.


11 posted on 06/20/2022 9:51:18 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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dang too large an image- ive asked mods to delete-


12 posted on 06/20/2022 9:51:31 PM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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And on the subject of oil, Biden will refuse to re-fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve once it is empty.


13 posted on 06/20/2022 9:54:36 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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Not a pretty picture.

Our Politicians took money to change the a tax code to incentivize sending Tech jobs overseas.

They never had any interest in manufacturing.

Now, the Subsidized Energy force.

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14 posted on 06/20/2022 9:58:34 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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I saved it!


15 posted on 06/20/2022 10:05:05 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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First, the wealthy individuals behind the environmentalists push a solution. Then, when many people rely on the solution, the Machiavellian individuals behind it proceed to stomp on it. They simply want you all to be gone.

E-scooters were supposed to fix travel in Rome. Then they became a major problem
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/rome-scooter-problems/index.html


16 posted on 06/20/2022 10:10:43 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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"Some of the existing ones have been expanded and upgraded so much, they may as well be new plants."

Way to defend "Democrat" watermelon marxists.

17 posted on 06/20/2022 10:41:47 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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It may take a decade or more to build a new power plant, obtain all the ever changing permits and meet all the enacted laws intended to thwart such a facility. Once that is all done and the plant is finally completed, it may take another decade or so to settle all the lawsuits through our court system, costing investors millions more.
Germany tried the “Green” energy approach and ended up buying Russian oil and gas. When Russia attacked Ukraine, Germany started rebuilding their shut down coal plants.
Elon Musk has said that if the US intended to go 100% EV, it would need to double its power production capacity. That will NEVER happen in the US in my children’s lifetime.
“My grandfather ride a camel and my father rode a camel. I drive a Mercedes and my son a Land Rover. My grandson will ride a Land Rover but my great grandson will have to ride a camel again”, said Sheik Rashid, founder of Dubai.
The US needs to start investing in camels.


18 posted on 06/20/2022 10:42:38 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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Yep, you're correct re. older, existing refineries have been restarted, expanded, modernized and such. This was in about the 1990s to 2010 for the ones I am acquainted with.

So, it can be done but will it be done? The OP describes reasons it will not because of economic and political conditions that poison the commercial factors.

19 posted on 06/20/2022 10:47:16 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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America’s people are poorly educated and too ignorant to realize how stupid they are all the while thinking their high school degrees make them geniuses about everything.

America, the new socialist Venezuela!

Flush twice!


20 posted on 06/20/2022 10:49:23 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism )
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