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Zelensky: Russian forces control one-fifth of Ukraine
The hill ^ | 06/02/2022 | Jared Gans

Posted on 06/02/2022 8:49:38 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: wardaddy
Putin has the east as he said he wanted from jump street for reasons we can argue forever the justness of He doesn’t seem to want much more

He doesn't need much more. The East up to the river denies NATO tanks a smooth path into Russia proper. It's all the buffer they need.

41 posted on 06/02/2022 9:54:18 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“We want to stay what we are,”

The most corrupt country in Europe?

42 posted on 06/02/2022 9:55:10 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: montag813
It amazes me how Bill Clinton is never blamed for being the one to take away Ukraine’s nukes.

It was the right decision, so I doubt Clinton thought it up.

That was back when clear-thinking adults who got us out of the cold war, not spoiled woke, globalist children, were in charge in DC - and realized that stability is the key to peace, weapons can flow anywhere, and that corrupt Ukraine pols and generals would probably sell a nuke to the highest bidder.

43 posted on 06/02/2022 9:56:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot
Soviet Russia” exists only in your mind.

Actually, it exists very much in the mind of Vladimir Putin, who has greatly lamented the fall of the Soviet Union, and wants to re-establish is or something similar to increase Russia's stature and power.

It's the core of why all of this is happening.

44 posted on 06/02/2022 9:56:41 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: ganeemead

The Nazis tried to exterminate two groups, but they hated more groups than just those two. It’s also not clear that modern-day Ukranian (or Estonian or Latvian) nationalists are out to do again what happened during WWII, any more than modern-day Germans are.


45 posted on 06/02/2022 9:59:09 AM PDT by x
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To: ganeemead
German Nazis had one or two groups that they wanted to get rid of. The Banderas are more like equal-opportunity Nazis and basically just hate everybody... Actually not quite true, Germans had a plenty of targets for later. Remember the Volyn massacre? This is when Germans used Bandera followers to genocide Poles.
46 posted on 06/02/2022 10:04:43 AM PDT by mvonfr
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Prior to the plandemic, I couldn’t understand how easily we could turn on each other and become the same as the pre-war Germans and Russians were to each other during the times their authoritarianism grew to finally overtake them and then those around them.

But now I do! That same inner darkness is here with us today with this generation, just as it always has been.

And we’re the same as those Germans and Russians were, too, and if we think the same things they did, then that same reality will soon be our reality, too, the same as night follows day.

And we did! Even us. Even here. We’re the same, so let’s not go down that same road they did any further/farther than we have already.

And so now, when I read the posts and the sentiments to these ‘Russia invades Ukraine’ stories, I also have a better understanding of why we, the people, looked away to let Hitler and Stalin take what they wanted and also why we were okay with it when FDR turned away that boat load of Jews who were trying to escape their fate in Nazi Germany.

We wear history like fashionable clothing until it gets dirty. And then we change into some work clothes and run history’s fashions through the washer and dryer, smooth out the wrinkles and hang them in our closet.

And then, on some busy morning one day in the future, while we’re stressed out and running late, we will mindlessly put them on again and it’s off into a new day, clean and fresh and looking good!

47 posted on 06/02/2022 10:05:37 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Does that 20% include Crimea?


48 posted on 06/02/2022 10:17:28 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Why would China do that, though?

If the Chinese are rational, they will notice that the United States is their biggest customer and foreign investor. Russia is a just a low cost supplier of raw materials, mostly (excepting military hardware they're fully able to duplicate in-house) from a largely uninhabited territory immediately to their north.

Which makes more rational sense, go to war at sea and air (for pride) with your biggest customer and investor, who happens to possess the most powerful navy and air forces in history, over a little island? Or use your massive and disposable manpower to take over from a demonstrably weak Russia the largest deposits of mineral riches on the planet? Deposits in a land mass which your Mongol ancestors owned for a far longer period of history than that little insignificant island off your southern coast. Taiwan will still be there when you're done.

All that assumes, of course, the Chinese leaders are rational. And there's no guarantee of that.

49 posted on 06/02/2022 10:38:33 AM PDT by katana
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To: Williams

Victoria Nuland and the CIA set this shitshow in motion 8 years ago.


50 posted on 06/02/2022 10:38:51 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So Russia is still losing?


51 posted on 06/02/2022 10:39:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Zelensky should just move straight to the MSNBC studios as this rate ...


52 posted on 06/02/2022 10:41:17 AM PDT by dmam2011
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To: MercyFlush
You're a fool repeating the talking points of the Biden regime.

Every day this war goes on, Russia gets stronger and gains more territory, more Ukrainians die needlessly in a war they can't win and more US taxpayer money is being wasted.

God damn you to hell for embrace the Biden regime's failed strategy on all of this.

53 posted on 06/02/2022 10:41:28 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: dmam2011
Zelensky should just move straight to the MSNBC studios as this rate …

They don't pay as well as Biden at 40 billion plus.

54 posted on 06/02/2022 10:44:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Gen.Blather

This doom and gloom propaganda is what North Koreans tell their people about the US.


55 posted on 06/02/2022 10:45:37 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Williams
He's libeling Ukraine. Libel is the spoken word for one thing. But, he's absolutely right.

We fomented a revolution in 2014 and trained, funded and enabled neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists to exterminate the ethnically-Russian population. Those same radicals threatened another revolution if the Minsk Accords, which Ukraine signed off on, were implemented. The Minsk Accords would have allowed Donesk and Lugansk to remain part of Ukraine but have more autonomy.

God damn you for supporting this neocon horse sh#t.

56 posted on 06/02/2022 10:46:05 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: MercyFlush

Just wait until Biden sends advanced missile batteries... and Russia responds in kind. Soon the Ukraine is going to find herself destroyed beyond recognition. We are on the path where Russia uses a tactical nuke fired from artillery. That will be moment of surrender of Emperor Z. If not a salvo might make him look like he ordered the destruction himself.


57 posted on 06/02/2022 10:46:46 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“ the WEF types, who back Ukraine, have lots of plans for me.”

And you can see clearly in Trudeau’s actions exactly what those plans are.


58 posted on 06/02/2022 10:47:09 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: cgbg

This is really the most important issue of our time. Most of the world is now without strong leadership, as the elected officials have become the advocates of mobs. They are facilitating the erosion of our most important institutions because the mobs have determined that personal responsibility is too demanding, and does not provide benefits in a quick enough time.


59 posted on 06/02/2022 10:47:11 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Navy Patriot

>>> “Soviet Russia” exists only in your mind. <<<

The flag of the Soviet Union is being used as a battle flag by Soviet forces. Soviet forces all wear iconography featuring the Hammer and Sickle of the Soviet Union. Soviet iconography adorns government buildings in Moscow thirty years after the dissolution of the Soviet Empire. The current national anthem of Russia is merely a reworded State Anthem of the Soviet Union.

In what I consider an act of ‘Truth in Labeling’ Duma member Oleg Mikhailov has submitted proposed legislation to restore the Soviet flag as the national flag of Soviet Russia.

So ‘Soviet Russia’ is quite the reality.

Seriously, there is much more actual evidence of Soviet Russia than there is for the phantom Nazis you and your Russian friends keep crying about.


60 posted on 06/02/2022 10:47:14 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce. ☭☭☭)
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