Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: pierrem15

I have yet to see or hear one field gun in the videos. Without a squad of 2A65 with fire missions on either side it is really isnt a conflict of anything more than armored personnel carriers and light tank divisions causing problems for each other, like some low end african conflict. It is sad to see that russia is now responsible for chernobyl, I would make a point to leave that with them. The ukrainain air force will be flying missions from poland within the week, and their english or german will be perfect. All the bullshit the soviets pulled through the cold war is the ROI now. Vald here is the soviet era.

I have seen one video with plenty of mortar fire, but a lot of light tanks are easy targets for pilots and shoulder launched anti tank on either side after dark.

One would expect the Ukrainian army to form up and move out in the next few days against whatever push is the most strung out and disorganized. They do know the ground, certainly have centralized purpose and counter attack should be better than the first 40 hours.

I would expect a ton of Global Hawk and armed drone peering over the polish boarder tonight giving the russians the first workload of their time in the radar division. Sitting in Syria how many times did their scope light up...3 times a tour. Make it 30 times a night over poland.

Let the russian troops in Ukraine think NATO may be willing to play. Let the polish loan ukraine some armillary pieces and play the game the ukraine separatists have been playing for a decade. It was not polish troops who dumped 10 tons of ordnance on a Russia town, its russian separatist in poland....who knew.


66 posted on 02/24/2022 2:28:50 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]


To: protoconservative

Did you miss the part where the Russians were using multiple MLRS batteries?

https://rumble.com/vvpl1x-mlrs-systems-active-against-ukrainian-positions..html

Ivan doesn’t restrict himself to tube artillery and massed rocket artillery is a long standing Russian tradition by now.

You also seem to have missed quite a lot of the reports (from all sides) in Syria of drone detection and combat against drones. So it won’t be that unusual for veterans of the conflict.

Worth remembering that Ukraine used to be the R&D and production center for armor in the old Soviet Union. I don’t think Putin wants that back, but it’s not like the Ukrainians are without armor and artillery, and better than what places like Iraq or Iran got.


79 posted on 02/24/2022 3:27:23 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies ]

To: protoconservative
The absence of heavy artillery on both sides is surprising. I would guess neither side has reliable self-propelled big guns and/or the logistics train to haul the ammo. Or the Red Army just prioritized speed over artillery and is using rockets instead.

Russian armor seems to be sticking to the roads. I wonder if there has been a thaw making the ground semi-impassable?

Hard to see what the objective is. Seize everything east of the Dnieper? Topple the government in Kiev?

I'm not sure 190K troops are enough if the Ukrainians dig in. Certainly not enough to take Kiev if there is heavy resistance. A bogged down assault with really heavy civilian casualties in Kiev might draw in NATO air.

Plus as you suggest I think we are feeding a lot of drone and signals intel to the Ukrainians.

101 posted on 02/24/2022 4:11:08 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson