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Russian troops ‘closing in on Kyiv as Ukraine suffers second bombing wave’-
metro ^ | 2/24/2020 | Faye Brown and Sean Seddon

Posted on 02/24/2022 1:08:18 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: RomanSoldier19

So I guess we can go ahead ant take Cuba now, right?


61 posted on 02/24/2022 2:14:21 PM PST by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: Army Air Corps
The Ukrainians are fighting

Good.

62 posted on 02/24/2022 2:14:46 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: slouper

If we were to start, I go straight to Minsk and hang Benito Lukashenko.


63 posted on 02/24/2022 2:15:11 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

So Biden is going to do what? Bomb innocent Ukrainians because the Russians are now there? And we know he WILL NOT bomb inside Russia...


64 posted on 02/24/2022 2:15:48 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: frank ballenger

“That’s what America said the day before Pearl Harbor.” True.

Except that no one has even pretended to want to attack Russia. It’s just a Reichstag fire by the Russkies.

Russia is more like Germany attacking Poland while claiming Poland was the aggressor.


65 posted on 02/24/2022 2:22:31 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: pierrem15

I have yet to see or hear one field gun in the videos. Without a squad of 2A65 with fire missions on either side it is really isnt a conflict of anything more than armored personnel carriers and light tank divisions causing problems for each other, like some low end african conflict. It is sad to see that russia is now responsible for chernobyl, I would make a point to leave that with them. The ukrainain air force will be flying missions from poland within the week, and their english or german will be perfect. All the bullshit the soviets pulled through the cold war is the ROI now. Vald here is the soviet era.

I have seen one video with plenty of mortar fire, but a lot of light tanks are easy targets for pilots and shoulder launched anti tank on either side after dark.

One would expect the Ukrainian army to form up and move out in the next few days against whatever push is the most strung out and disorganized. They do know the ground, certainly have centralized purpose and counter attack should be better than the first 40 hours.

I would expect a ton of Global Hawk and armed drone peering over the polish boarder tonight giving the russians the first workload of their time in the radar division. Sitting in Syria how many times did their scope light up...3 times a tour. Make it 30 times a night over poland.

Let the russian troops in Ukraine think NATO may be willing to play. Let the polish loan ukraine some armillary pieces and play the game the ukraine separatists have been playing for a decade. It was not polish troops who dumped 10 tons of ordnance on a Russia town, its russian separatist in poland....who knew.


66 posted on 02/24/2022 2:28:50 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: frank ballenger

This isn’t World War Three.

Actions that would make it World War Three shouldn’t be taken.


67 posted on 02/24/2022 2:32:24 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: Arcadian Empire

I was sure fabulously wrong about the conflict. I really didn’t think Putin would dare make the move he did since he spent so much time telling us he would do it.


68 posted on 02/24/2022 2:40:13 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: bert

Yes. Everything west to Berlin.


69 posted on 02/24/2022 2:42:29 PM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Sam Gamgee

I actually don’t believe that he wanted to do it.

He prefers moves that have maximum profit and minimum risk.

Crimea is an example.

This doesn’t fit that pattern.

In view of that, I believe that others in the Russian government must have insisted on this, and he agreed to it.


70 posted on 02/24/2022 2:43:42 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: windsorknot

I have Ukrainian Russian friends and what upsets them the most is the almost total ignorance in the west about what’s actually going on in Ukraine. They, and most Ukrainians, loathe this western installed puppet leader that’s leading the country to a NATO proxy war. The only Ukrainians that are for it are the woke equivalents of the extreme leftist squad types investing our country. Zelensky is the second western puppet to be installed in Ukraine. Even the country’s judges must be approved by the west. There’s currently and ethnic Cleansing program going on with the 4 million ancestral Russian citizens of Ukraine.


71 posted on 02/24/2022 2:43:50 PM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: windsorknot

A couple of days ago there was an event at my university about the Ukraine/Russia crisis. In the Q&A period, a woman said she has two Ukrainian nephews, born in the US, military age, who are now in Ukraine. They encouraged them to return to the US but the young men wanted to stay and fight for Ukraine.


72 posted on 02/24/2022 2:53:47 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: PGR88

I think Vlad just wants to depose the Zelensky Govt., then leave Kiev.


73 posted on 02/24/2022 2:56:31 PM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: pierrem15

With the advent of tank APS, that is far less true than it used to be, and the Russian BMPT types included in the mix mean that sitting on a roof firing down on a Russian formation can be a very bad idea.


74 posted on 02/24/2022 3:03:34 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rrrod

Mine does too. They want to be free. There is a great spiritual revival in Ukraine also . Unfortunately our corrupt leaders have sold them out it seems 😢


75 posted on 02/24/2022 3:07:35 PM PST by boxlunch (10th Amendmt: nullification or Texit? PS We're in a hot war: globalists, CCP, media, Dems, RINOs)
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To: frank ballenger

“The US has satellite views of the gas storage tanks and pipelines and could hit them and stop the tanks.”

And then what might happen?

Let me rephrase that question. Do you think you’re within or outside the blast radius of the nuke targeted for your city or town?


76 posted on 02/24/2022 3:20:09 PM PST by Jay W
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To: PGR88

Kiev is the capital, and Putin wants to establish his own puppet government there.


77 posted on 02/24/2022 3:20:11 PM PST by devere
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To: Yo-Yo

The Russians don’t need them, the Syrian conflict proved their counterparts work just fine against frontline NATO tanks.


78 posted on 02/24/2022 3:22:59 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: protoconservative

Did you miss the part where the Russians were using multiple MLRS batteries?

https://rumble.com/vvpl1x-mlrs-systems-active-against-ukrainian-positions..html

Ivan doesn’t restrict himself to tube artillery and massed rocket artillery is a long standing Russian tradition by now.

You also seem to have missed quite a lot of the reports (from all sides) in Syria of drone detection and combat against drones. So it won’t be that unusual for veterans of the conflict.

Worth remembering that Ukraine used to be the R&D and production center for armor in the old Soviet Union. I don’t think Putin wants that back, but it’s not like the Ukrainians are without armor and artillery, and better than what places like Iraq or Iran got.


79 posted on 02/24/2022 3:27:23 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bert; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; AuH2ORepublican

“Currently, the Russian Federation holds an unknown number of soldiers in Transnistria, an unrecognized breakaway state internationally recognized as part of Moldova.”


80 posted on 02/24/2022 3:31:25 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I owe, I owe, it's off to work I go ...)
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