FDA Closes Monoclonal Antibody Clinics In Florida, DeSantis Seeks Reversal

The Washington Examiner ^ | 01/25/22 | Christopher Hutton

[Go Gordon]

FDA will have blood on their hands.

They already do, sadly.

[catnipman]

FDA closes monoclonal antibody clinics in Florida, DeSantis seeks reversal”

yeah, good luck with that, Ron ... Covid Joe must be hoping to murder enough old folks in Florida to affect the 2024 vote ...

[gracefullyparanoid]

There are “sanctuary cities” that refuse to follow our immigration laws.

DeSantis needs to declare Florida a Sanctuary State and will nullify and not follow CDC/NIH.

Of course that won’t work unless he sources the momoclonals from out of the US because we all know the US government-phrama complex will not sell them to Florida.

[thouworm]

Fla Dept of Health statement:

https://twitter.com/HealthyFla/status/1485813688967827461?s=20

DeSantis presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoz_gsfqFwQ

[know.your.why]

Could the FDA/CDC/NIH/WHO (Fauci) make it more obvious that they WANT humans to die from this virus?

[pnz1]

Local FL news “claims” there’s only two monoclonals not allowed, but there’s others available

[thouworm]

“Local FL news “claims” there’s only two monoclonals not allowed, but there’s others available”

hmmm...They cancelled the Regeneron combo. It will be interesting to see what DeSantis does.

Off the subject a bit, but Alex Berenson appeared on Tucker tonight to discuss the vaccines. He said the current mrna vax should be stopped immediately. *Excellent interview*. He said (to paraphrase) that like the monoclonals the FDA just withdrew, the current mrna vaxes don’t match the spike protein of omicron.

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/fox-guest-demands-covid-vaccines-be-immediately-pulled-market-calls-them-dangerous

Of course that caught my attention re the monoclonals. I still think the FDA move was hasty and I suspect their motives. Delta is still present and even though symptoms between the 2 variants vary, immediate treatment is critical for both variants, especially for older people with comorbidities.

Neither the patient, his doctor, nor the FDA can be certain which variant he has.

Just today Dan Bongino (a Fla resident) spoke of a fully-vaxxed friend in Fla who contracted covid and was not doing well. His appt for monoclonals was just cancelled. Bongino himself is vaxxed bec he has leukemia and his dr recommended. He also contracted covid recently; got monoclonals immediately and recovered in 3 days.

But IMO, the question is: Unlike the vaxx, which can do great harm, would the Regeneron combo do harm or would it just be ineffective?

And what monoclonals is the FDA suggesting? OR is the FDA just paving way for the new covid pills, Molnupiravir and Paxlovid? Keyword those.

No matter how we, as potential patients, try to evaluate and prepare, once AGAIN and continually, the govt is controlling the dr/patient relationship...criminally IMO.

[thouworm]

Greeting gas_dr:

I am pinging you to the thread and especially to my post #48 for your current expert opinion as a doctor treating covid patients.

PS: The interview with Berenson I linked in post #48 is 5 min.

Even if you disagree with him (and me) about the vaccines, I only included it for his reference to monoclonals with respect to the FDA withdrawal of the Regeneron combo. That caught my attention because he seemed to suggest that the targeted spike protein in mrna vaccines AND the Regeneron combo don’t work with the structure of the omicron spike protein-—thus the FDA Regeneron combo withdrawal.

MY CONCERN:

I had an arrangement with my doctor that if I contracted covid the information I supplied him with was enough that he would immediately prescribe the Regeneron combo (which at the time, 3 months ago, was readily available in my area. Because my doctor works within a hospital system (arg!), I am assuming that that door is now closed. If so, what next for monoclonals in your opinion?

[gas_dr]

Thank you for the ping and the question. At this time, Regeneron does not appear all that effective for omicron. However, the monoclonal sotrovimab appears to be superior for omicron. That being said, omicron is pretty benign, and we are seeing an awful lot of extremely mild symptomatic patients (hospitalized “with” instead of “for”) and does not require infusion therapy

The Biden administration has effectively co-opted and nationalized this medication, so we are all kind of screwed because the admin has restricted distribution. My colleagues in Florida had an extremely easy time getting monoclonals, but that is no longer the case as of today because of changes in the FDA authorization.

I think this clearly demonstrated the ill will of the administration currently in DC, and I believe I read DeSantis was going to sue over this — which is appropriate.

I have long stated that vaccinations against the original and delta disease were effective at stopping critical illness, but clearly omicron has escaped vaccination, but perhaps because of vaccination, the evolution of a more mild disease has occurred which will “naturally” vaccinate everyone. I am particularly heartened that omicron seems to produce robust antibodies to precious and more serious disease.

You essentially did the exact right thing as I have encouraged those who did not want vaccination to make sure they could get monoclonals. While you are correct that the door is closed, the good news is that omicron causes no critical illness in my experience (I see an occasional delta, but that is a different clinical story). The numbers are crashing, and the receding of omicron will be as impressive as its emergence — take joy that the UK and SA, and now Ireland have stopped all their covid precautions because the have reached herd immunity — and it is over. The only question left is what will the politicians (and I think Fauci is a politician, not physician) do. I have a feeling Biden will use this to declare victory of CoVID (if he were smart), return everything to normal, and take a victory lap — we shall see if he is that smart.

[gas_dr]

And infusion of Regeneron, even if not effective, would not be detrimental.

[thouworm]

Thank you!

” However, the monoclonal sotrovimab appears to be superior for omicron.”

Ah...also a GlaxoSmithKline product. I have a telephone follow-up appt early Feb. I will ask about sotrovimab. If you don’t mind, I may private FRmail you after appt.

“The numbers are crashing, and the receding of omicron will be as impressive as its emergence.”

I am high-risk, but as long as I know I have the best therapeutics available, I agree contracting omicron is an experience I dread, but the natural immunity that follows would be a relief.

“The only question left is what will the politicians (and I think Fauci is a politician, not physician) do. I have a feeling Biden will use this to declare victory of CoVID (if he were smart), return everything to normal, and take a victory lap — we shall see if he is that smart.”

On this question, I think you may be overly optimistic. They seem to be hell-bent to vaccinate the world...with the current mrna vaccines and/or the next incarnation from Pfizer (against omicron). $$$

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4032563/posts

FUTILE! Govt a light year behind because their “control” over covid is solely (or soullessly) politically driven. IMO, Biden isn’t in control of anything. Incapable of sustained rational thought on complex subjects. Merely taking direction.

But PS: I hope you are right. It *would* be the smart thing to do. The Biden Adm has crashed the world in a year and has more impt things to attend to.

Thanks again

PPS: Have you weighed in on diluted povidone iodine as a nasal and gargle prophylaxis?

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Call this MEDICAL FASCISM OR MEDICAL MARXISM.

ANTI-monoclonal patients to the Left, The rest of the Conservatives to the Right! Ve haff showers for you.

Or we have FDA/CDC politbureau-approved medicines for you at our approved work, err, health camps in the East.