Posted on 01/23/2022 1:01:45 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
The Marine Corps has granted just two religious exemptions to the over 3,200 applicants appealing the military COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
As of January 12th, according to the Marine Corps Times, two out of 3,212 religious exemption requests have been granted for the vaccine, which was mandated for all active-duty Marines to receive by November 28th, 2o21. The figure amounts to just 0.06 percent of requests being granted.
If marines don’t receive either a COVID-19 vaccine or an exemption, they will be discharged.
Roughly 150 exemption requests are still awaiting review.
“Due to privacy considerations, we are unable to discuss the specifics of any individual requests,” Capt. Andrew Wood commented to the Marine Corps Times.
He outlined the review process for marines seeking COVID-19 vaccine exemptions:
The initial request is reviewed by the first lieutenant colonel commander, colonel commander and commanding general in the requesting Marine’s chain of command before being sent off to deputy commandant for manpower and reserve affairs.
Within Manpower and Reserve Affairs, a three-person panel reviews each request before making a recommendation to the deputy commandant.
If the request is denied, the Marine who initially filed the request has the right to appeal to the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, who then personally reviews each appeal before making a final decision.
Since the vaccine mandates were first rolled out, the Marine Corps has been the least vaccinated force in the Department of Defense.
Marine Corps Commandant Gen. David Berger blamed the hesitancy on online “disinformation.”
“You have to ask each individual Marines their reason why,” Berger said on November 4th at the Aspen Security Forum.
“But I think we’re challenged by disinformation that still swirls around about where the genesis, how did this vaccine get approved, is it safe is it ethical ― all that swirls around on the internet and they see all that they read all that,” the commandant lamented.
Let me guess... all Moslems.
I’ve posted on earlier threads that the basic problem with religious or medical exemptions is that if we are to pretend this is a scary doomsday super-virus then you can’t have anyone receive the fake vax for any reason; to maintain the facade, you CAN’T have “unsafe” people around the “safe” ones (regardless of who has their rights violated).
My thought too. Either the two lone exemptions are Muslims, or the exemptions were granted in error. In any case, Christians need not apply.
Oh, goody. The hard case bureaucrats are morally torturing some of the best fighters we have.
Look at this blatantly illegal process. Under the law it only needs to be a sincerely held religious belief. According the the Supreme Court it does NOT require perfect adherence to a particular religion, and it cannot be overridden by a ruling from a preacher etc. It can be as simple as you watching the surf and god told you something. The current USMC is run by woke traitors.
“The initial request is reviewed by the first lieutenant colonel commander, colonel commander and commanding general in the requesting Marine’s chain of command before being sent off to deputy commandant for manpower and reserve affairs.
Within Manpower and Reserve Affairs, a three-person panel reviews each request before making a recommendation to the deputy commandant.
If the request is denied, the Marine who initially filed the request has the right to appeal to the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, who then personally reviews each appeal before making a final decision.”
It was the same way during the Vietnam conflict. The military approved very few cases, but while tried to look concerned and fair by hearing many cases. The tiny few didn’t matter and the gigantic majority were out of luck from the get-go.
Hey, I know. Declare Atheism a religion and then I’m sure their “religious convictions” will get them exempted.
For vaccination passports, my god is adobe acrobat and a printer.
No longer my Marine Corps.
There aren't many people who can claim that the Marine Corps didn't measure up to their standards, but these would certainly be some who could.
“...you CAN’T have “unsafe” people around the “safe” ones...”
You’ve got the idea as to result, however this has nothing to do with rights.
One of the requirements of the military is that you have to be world wide qualified. It is the determination of the commander in chief, POTUS, that if you can be shut down, or shut down other members, then you aren’t safe to deploy and a threat to the mission and lives. If you can’t deploy, you must leave the military. (Med evaluation Board, MEB) That’s the basics. And as long as the president determines the vaccines are safe, and you refuse them, you are violating the UCMJ art 86 failure to go get the vaccines when told to.
That also establishes art 92 a failure to obey an order or regulation” (written or stated). So it can add punitive damages, possible incarceration. Those damages are assessed in order to punish the defendant for outrageous conduct and/or to reform or deter the defendant and others from engaging in conduct similar to that which formed the basis of the offense.
The military world is not like the civilian population. If a military member decides not to get the vaccines, when he signed the contract and it was the member’s responsibility to understand the parameters of the commitment, then he’s accountable for the failure to go and the follow on possibilities. He was “hired,” trained, fed, housed, and given room and paid to make decisions and gain responsibilities.
If the member had a religious problem with the vaccines, then the member should have had problems with others like Rubella, measles, hep A, and, God forbid, rabies that were created with human cells. But there have been no human cells used since the mid 1980’s. So the member never should have signed the contract.
wy69
“If marines don’t receive either a COVID-19 vaccine or an exemption, they will be discharged.”
Repulsive and not logical, since vaccines are one of 50 treatments for Covid 19. And most Marines will be cured of Covid 19 by a Z pac and Listerine.
You beat me to it..
My son is one of the ones not yet denied. He is a fine young Christian man. Currently a 0331 just about to be promoted to Sargent.
I have encouraged him to fight and he is. So far his request has made it through 5 layers. It is currently at the last one. Please remember him and his buddies that are fighting to keep the Corps as it should be. It gets really tiring reading all the snarky comments on here from so called self professed “patriots” running down current service men choosing to stay.You would think people would encourage fighting against the bureaucracy, you know like say the spirit of our founders……
He is an exemplary Marine and was in the running for a spot as a 0317 having passed the indoc just before Covid went nuclear at which time they suspended training. His contract is now too short to retry. Sad loss for the Corps and for a young man who spent much of his development preparing to try his hand as a S.S.
You are overlooking (with the help of the enemedia) that this is a “vaccine” that only has emergency authorization. I would agree with your points except for that - and it is a HUGE difference. If the standard testing had been performed (years of it) and you said all that, I’d agree.
“If the standard testing had been performed (years of it) and you said all that, I’d agree.”
My point in my entry was that in the military they don’t do things like the outside world. You wish to bring to the issue a lot of things that are pertinent to the outside world and I am trying to show you the outside world, in this case, is on a different page. The military page is nothing but practiced and established policies in the form of directives that the military member agrees to when he/she signs the contract.
In the outside world, if you refuse the vaccines, you did not commit yourself to taking orders that you accomplish something based upon the decision of others. You can refuse and it is your business. In the military the only orders that can be refused are those that threaten personnel or priority one property. And if it is direct refusal of an act that has been determined safe you probably will be disciplined. In this case, because of the lack of world wide capacity, separated. So if you refuse the shot which has been given as an order and determined by the commander in chief, or his underlings and he agrees, to be safe or as a proper tool to keep troops healthy and working, you made the decision inconsistent with the command. The rest was in my first post.
Oh, I generally use sites so the civilian can have something to use to understand what I’m trying to post. And I try to use words that can be understood by people who have never been in or around the military. I was attached to the military in one form or another for around 35 years. I’ve been everything from a slick sleeve troop to a top tier NCO, to a GM class member of the DOD. I have seen situations like this happen a number of times and know through experience in most cases how the military will react. However, sometimes they fool me. But with the years, not often. That’s one of the good parts of the military that through regulations and directives, their is the discipline needed for good order to complete the mission with as little harm as we can.
Plus, if a person is willing to be scared out of the service he/she selected for a treatment that may be causing problems, how are they going to react in a firefight for their and my protection? Remember, it was their choice to get there. Can they be trusted? Maybe.
wy69
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