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Showdown over Ukraine looms as Russia, NATO unlikely to reach deal
https://www.globalsecurity.org/ ^ | 12/20/2021 | Global Times

Posted on 12/19/2021 9:48:17 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

If US-led bloc refuses Moscow's proposal, 'regional conflicts would increase'

By Yang Sheng Published: Dec 19, 2021 10:29 PM Updated: Dec 19, 2021 10:37 PM

The intense situation around Ukraine between Russia and NATO is unlikely to ease, as it is almost impossible that NATO will accept the security guarantee proposed by Moscow due to entrenched hostility to Russia, Chinese analysts said, adding that the US-led bloc will not give up expansion to the east, and Russia will definitely take action to retaliate.

They noted that although China hopes the two sides can resolve the situation peacefully, the two sides are unlikely to reach a new agreement without any friction and conflict, and that if negotiations break down, at least some regional conflicts may break out.

Russia will engage in "creating counter threats" if NATO turns down the Russian proposals for security guarantees, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko said on Solovyov Live YouTube channel on Saturday, TASS reported on Saturday.

"We are making clear that we are ready to talk about switching over from a military or a military-technical scenario to a political process" that will strengthen the security of all countries in the area of the OCSE, Euro-Atlantic and Eurasia, he said. "If that doesn't work out, we signaled to them [NATO] that will also move over to creating counter threats, but it will then be too late to ask us why we made these decisions and why we deployed these systems."

The Europeans must think about the prospect of turning the continent into a field of military confrontation, he said.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alexandergrushko; armagedon; armenia; azerbaijan; ccp; china; erdogan; eu; europeanunion; france; germany; kurdistan; nato; poland; receptayyiperdogan; russia; turkey; ukraine; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 12/19/2021 9:48:17 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

The world could be a radically different place in 60 days.


2 posted on 12/19/2021 9:52:40 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

3 posted on 12/19/2021 9:55:43 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The Deep State games in Ukraine since 2014 have corrupted US politics. Don’t believe me? Just look at Biden Burisma corruption, Biden bragging about having Ukraine’s top justice officials fired, or the ridiculous impeachment of Trump


4 posted on 12/19/2021 10:10:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: RomanSoldier19

I bet we’ll see missiles in Cuba again. Less of a menace than submarines off DC, but they know how that’ll be a hot button.


5 posted on 12/19/2021 10:15:46 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: DesertRhino

The Russians ain’t gonna nuke DC. Why do us any favors?


6 posted on 12/19/2021 10:23:50 PM PST by Equine1952
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To: DesertRhino

Sorry. I left off the /s at the end of my post.


7 posted on 12/19/2021 10:25:38 PM PST by Equine1952
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To: Equine1952

Okay, I LOL’ed!


8 posted on 12/19/2021 10:30:46 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Putin hates the EU, and NATO.

Russia has a multi-decade, multi-faceted
play in the Ukraine that will not
be stopped by anybody.


9 posted on 12/19/2021 11:16:43 PM PST by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Well kinda figured since we left A Stan, its time for another war, a conventional war is a good way to jump an economy.


10 posted on 12/19/2021 11:18:20 PM PST by the_individual2014
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11 posted on 12/19/2021 11:18:32 PM PST by spokeshave (Get ahead by banning fossil fools, like McConnell, Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein, Schumer, Leahy, etc.)
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To: Equine1952

Agree. Safest place in the US right now.


12 posted on 12/20/2021 12:57:40 AM PST by FreeperCell
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To: RomanSoldier19

Global Times is CCP controlled paper. They are in no way objective and are just bullshitting most of the time.


13 posted on 12/20/2021 1:18:11 AM PST by Krosan
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To: RomanSoldier19

As soon as Putin was done talking to Biden, he sent 10,000 more troops to the border. He knows Biden isn’t going to do squat


14 posted on 12/20/2021 1:42:14 AM PST by roving
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To: RomanSoldier19

NATO is flawed as it is. It shouldn’t be the US extending protection over every member. It should be what it was originally intended to be...A mutual DEFENSE pact. Everybody helps everybody ONLY WHEN ATTACKED. (But I’m starting to think we need to just disband it.)

The Russian spokesman says we have nuclear weapons in Europe. Is that so? I will agree with Russia on that major point. Under no circumstances should US nuclear weapons be on European soil.

This is going to take a Kennedy-style scratch-my-back-I’ll-scratch-yours type of deal to diffuse.


15 posted on 12/20/2021 4:12:25 AM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: DesertRhino
I bet we'll see missiles in Cuba again

I'm guessing Venezuela, but same concept.

16 posted on 12/20/2021 4:42:03 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: spokeshave

A possibility.
Ol’Joe may try to bump up his poll numbers by showing what a tough guy he is.
He’s stupid enough.The Question is , is there anybody around him to talk some sense into him. MMMm don’t think so.


17 posted on 12/20/2021 10:08:23 AM PST by Vinnie ( L g Brandon)
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