Posted on 12/18/2021 3:22:54 AM PST by Cronos
For seven years, a war has been going on in eastern Ukraine and now Russia is accused by the West of threatening an invasion.
Since war in the east broke out in April 2014, more than 14,000 people have died.
There are fundamental differences in the Russian and Ukrainian positions. But the major dispute centres on a political settlement for the Donbas.
The two countries have "irreconcilable" views on the future of the war-torn areas in eastern Ukraine, says Duncan Allan, an associate fellow at Chatham House.
Ukraine wants to restore its sovereignty and territorial integrity while Russia, he believes, wants "to force the authorities in Kyiv to grant far-reaching autonomy or so-called special status" to eastern Ukraine.
But that would turn those territories into "quasi-independent mini states controlled by Russia", and enable Moscow to have a profound influence on Ukraine's foreign and domestic policies, Mr Allan says.
The government in Kyiv argues that special status for the rebel-controlled areas of eastern Ukraine is already incorporated into nationwide decentralisation reform.
the views on Ukraine's sovereignty are incompatible: "In other words Ukraine is either sovereign, which is Ukraine's position, or it is not sovereign, not fully sovereign - and that's Russia's position. And there is really no middle way between those two positions."
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And we give them weapons. Make invasion more expensive.
Never pay for the same real estate twice.
Can we also give them Dumbass?
Good one. I’m all for that.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
“ I normally don’t support Russian adventures in Europe, but I think the best solution for Ukraine is for this to give the Donbass to Russia.”
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That would be akin to giving the Permian Basin to Mexico…..
“I normally don’t support Russian adventures in Europe, but I think the best solution for Ukraine is for this to give the Donbass to Russia.”
Agree, and they’re majority Russian anyway.
Hitler said that about the Sudetenland.
It’s funny how we in the west have the upper hand over Russia and the Chicoms when it comes to economics. So why do they threaten Ukraine/Taiwan? It might be sowing wild oats as trade makes them more prosperous. So why put it at risk? It’s like taking a dump. Gotta discard ones ‘inner’ problems. Castro did it at Mariel. Germany tried it with the Jooz. The Arab world thinks all their problems will clear with their elimination.
“Hitler said that about the Sudetenland.”
Was he wrong?
You missed the memo from Putin demanding NATO withdraw from all former soviet east bloc countries.
Putin doesn't want Donbas. If he did, he would have annexed it a long time ago, like Crimea.
And just like Hitler, appeasing aggressive megalomaniac dictators will “make no more territorial demands.”
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