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Parents of Michigan shooter Ethan Crumbley go on the RUN after being charged with manslaughter for his school rampage that left 4: Prosecutors reveal they bought the 9mm handgun for him for CHRISTMAS
Daily Mail UK ^ | 12/03/2021 | Shawn Cohen

Posted on 12/03/2021 12:03:27 PM PST by sevinufnine

The parents of accused Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley are now on the run from police, just hours after a prosecutor announced involuntary manslaughter charges against them and revealed stunning details about the murder weapon that was a Christmas gift for the 15-year-old, whom police say shot dead four students after penning a disturbing note saying 'thoughts won't stop, help me.' Police have issued a 'be on the lookout alert' for James and Jennifer Crumbley, who were charged Friday with four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection with Tuesday's deadly shooting. The charge carries a sentence of up to 15 years in prison. Oakland County prosecutor Karen McDonald alleged that the parents ignored multiple warning signs and refused to take their son out of school just hours before the shooting took place.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; crumbley; ethancrumbley; fugitives; jamescrumbley; jennifercrumbley; michigan; oxford; oxfordhigh; schoolshooting; stupid
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To: ping jockey

Yes, good luck with that kid... in the land of fiction.


121 posted on 12/03/2021 4:09:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: sevinufnine

This is a very peculiar case, like the Sandyhook case with the weird Mom and the mental case kid getting everything he wants.


122 posted on 12/03/2021 4:14:52 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: sevinufnine

That is very weird, being reluctant to take him home. My folks would have taken me home in a heartbeat and there would have been an inquisition all the way home to sort out the school and child versions of events.


123 posted on 12/03/2021 4:24:27 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Me too... Either way we can be assured the left will use it to their full advantage.


124 posted on 12/03/2021 4:29:30 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: sevinufnine

The school had the responsibility and duty to call the police, have his book bag, his locker and his body searched. From what has been said, the school counselor was in charge of this interview with the shooter and parents, which means a liberal MSW was making the call. No different than the Wisconsin prosecutor who let Brooks out on 1000.00 bail.


125 posted on 12/03/2021 4:35:00 PM PST by Toespi ( )
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To: CatHerd

That last sentence “I want my child to get a gun” sounds fake and over-the-top as all get out. Who writes like that, instead of just commenting on their own right to own firearms??


126 posted on 12/03/2021 4:42:08 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Parents are called to the school and shown the drawings accompanied by the words

“Blood everywhere, thoughts won’t stop, help me. My life is useless. The world is dead.”

And the parents know they just bought him a new handgun like the one in the drawing. What would sane patents do? Leave the school with him, demand he hand over his backpack before getting into the car, check the backpack as soon as they get home, find the gun and ammo and notebook in it. Then checked his phone and discovered the video. At which point, sane parents would have locked up all guns and ammo and begun finding psychiatric help for the kid.

Notebook:

“Deputies recovered the suspect’s cellphone and a notebook after the Tuesday, Nov. 30 shooting, Oakland County Sheriff’s Office Lt. Tim Willis told Judge Carniak.

Willis said a video recorded the night before the shooting was found on the phone and depicted the suspect talking about shooting and killing students the next day.

The suspect’s notebook was also recovered by deputies that outlined his plans to commit the shooting and surveillance video at the school shows the suspect shooting students, Willis said.”

Link: https://www.mlive.com/news/2021/12/testimony-teen-took-video-about-killing-students-night-before-oxford-high-school-shooting.html

But no, these parents refused to take him home. They left their very troubled kid who had just made a cry for help at school, not knowing whether he had that gun in his backpack. Did not even go back home to check whether the gun was there. Dad did rush home to check right after he heard of the shooting, though. Too late, Pops.


127 posted on 12/03/2021 4:49:34 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: piasa

I agree it sounds fake. A screenshot of the comment was posted:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/03/21/51311331-10271865-A_man_believed_to_be_James_Crumbley_wrote_in_a_Facebook_comment_-a-57_1638568479856.jpg

Like I wrote, “if you can believe the DM”.


128 posted on 12/03/2021 4:54:22 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: algore

My first inclination is meds . . . just always. That’s not an excuse by any means, but it is an unfortunate reality. The “parents” should have been aware, and are a sad excuse for parents if he was on something. So sick of hearing about the drug issues weeks later in so many of these cases. It’s criminal what big pharma is doing to our adults and our kids.


129 posted on 12/03/2021 4:55:20 PM PST by adc (wethepeople)
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To: sevinufnine

I fear such a situation in the making right here. I have a 7 (yes 7) year old neighbor who is just a terror. His parents do not discipline him, they let him run wild through the neighborhood. He has no impulse control, and he loves to play with toy guns. He has come up on my porch and pointed his toy gun at me and shot many times. The words no, stop, etc. do not resonate with him. He pays no attention. I didn’t want him here, so I told him to go home, and his response was “You’re not my f-in boss!” Knowing his anger issues, his lack of discipline and impulse control, what will happen with him if he ever gets a real gun in his hands?


130 posted on 12/03/2021 5:00:50 PM PST by smalltownslick (a)
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To: CatHerd
No, that is not it.   The web crawler archives in a snapshot of all active URL's on the World Wide Web and does day after day and has been doing as far back as 1996.

I grabbed this screen print from TheWayBackMachine @ Archive.org back when the truth came to light of Jason Kessler being a leftist agitator who suckered White Supremacists to come to Charlottesville to set up a false flag operation.

https://ibb.co/MZ1wH92 Jason Kessler gun control messages

What White Supremacist ever would implore President Obama to address gun control?

Here is some text I saved from back then.

Recovered from the internet archive: for JasonKessler.net

10 Dec 2015
An Opening salvo

Hello Fellow Freaks,

Hopefully this is the start of something huge; a CREATIVE movement to take back fiction from the corporate committees of Big Business, the politically correct stagnation of Hollywood and the censorship of Big Media. I want to write genre-busting stories for you that no one else would dare to touch: dark, masculine, weird, fierce and politically independent.

If you've made it this far we're probably simpatico (or you're at least curious enough to lend me your ear). I want to earn your trust while I grow into my full power as an author and hopefully you'll grow a little from reading my stuff. So along the way feel free to read me, send me your ideas, tell me you love me, you hate me, argue the hell out of me and influence my future work, compadres.

My first novel entitled, 'Short Change' is currently being shopped to publishers so you'll have to wait for that one. But I'll post some sample chapters soon & if you subscribe to my mailing list I'll make sure you're up to date on my free episodic short stories as well as giveaways for some cool promotional artwork.

With Love,
Jason

P.S. Don't forget to join the conversation on Facebook, Twitter; links at bottom of each page.

Mickey Mouse is the Official Dirty Diaper Changer of the Most Infantilized Generation in Human History
12/15/2015 5 Comments

Picture (Mickey Mouse is a) three-fingered son of a bitch who has no soul, for Christ's sake. - Charles Bukowski

With Disney"s recent acquisition of the rights to both Marvel Comics and Star Wars on the big screen, The Mouse has triangulated to piss all over a big part of our collective childhoods. More importantly, the target audience is not just children but an epidemic level of coddled adults. This is why I say that Mickey Mouse is the official dirty diaper changer of the most infantilized generation in human history.

Millennials ( and Gen-Xers, for shame!) are facing massive existential threats to all life on Planet Earth: from Radical Islam to Climate Change. But rather than face these challenges head on, they've retreated into the comfort of the womb with safe spaces, trigger warnings & cultural relativism. They'll surely be singing Kumbaya as Rome burns down around them.

And our popular art reflects this naivet and prolonged adolescence. Substantive cinema of previous generations like The Godfather, Annie Hall, Wall Street, Chinatown, Easy Rider & Unforgiven have been replaced at the box office by shallow children's tales with loud swooshing noises, steroid-injected human oddities and morally unambiguous superhuman messiah-figures.

What we need now is not a messiah. We need everyday people to roll up their sleeves & face reality. We need artists and philosophers like Charles Bukowski, like Stanley Kubrick, like Sigmund Freud, to kick the Mickey Mouse out of our heads. It's time to get down to business and advance Western Culture proudly into the 21st century. Disney won't be the one to do that folks.

Let's get something straight right now: everything Disney touches is a disposable, empty-calorie, corporate product like Coca-Cola or Lay's Potato Chips. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a little escapism in our palate but when the hell did bubblegum become the primary staple of our intellectual diet? I dare you to name a single movie since the turn of the millennium on par with Easy Rider or Blue Velvet. There've been some good movies to be sure but we should've had at least a few great ones by now (if the blockbusters weren't eating them alive in their cribs that is).

It doesn't help that the venerated cultural arbiters of taste have been falling into greater and greater irrelevance. The Oscars, for instance, have become a running joke of forgettable propaganda pictures competing over whichever special interest group is worth the most social brownie points that particular year. Maybe this will be the year of the gender-fluid otherkin who overcomes someone insulting them one time in college. Or maybe we'll get more finger-pointing guilt porn about Western Civilization's bloody past. Hollywood writers simply can't hone their edge on kiddie movies. So when it comes time to confront adult material they fall back into their facile ideological comfort zones rather than ask deeper, more complicated questions. No wonder they prefer to stick with loud, shiny & inoffensive.

So jihadis may be blowing up your countrymen & it's 70 degrees in December, but never fear! Mickey Mouse promises that you needn't worry at all. All you have to do is sit back and relax while Captain America and the Jedis swoop in to save the day from some vague and politically correct enemy. Our values will always be championed by these spandex-clad messiahs, after all. And deep down, everything is just a cuddly, soulless three-fingered son-of-a-bitch.


131 posted on 12/03/2021 5:02:46 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Ah, I see. When I looked it said “searches” and “saves” so I thought that might refer to when users searched for it/saved it, rather than when it was captured. Thanks for flying me in. As I said, lots of fake stuff on the web.

Whoever wrote the letter claimed to be a feminist and pro-abortion as well as pro-2A. That’s a tad odd, too.


132 posted on 12/03/2021 5:23:51 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Yes, all obviously fake.


133 posted on 12/03/2021 5:27:35 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Ugh. “clueing” not “flying” — doggone spellchecker.


134 posted on 12/03/2021 5:38:35 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"They enabled him. That’s what these types of parents do."

I am so glad that you were able to see them in therapy, and reveal these insights you gained in your sessions with them. Also interesting that you were able to "type" classify them so quickly. How many sessions did you have with them? This is so much better than just giving us some uninformed conclusion to which you have jumped. Also glad that you were able to bypass any ethics considerations in revealing information which you had gained directly from them...oh...you did not have any therapy with them? Ohhhh, I see.

135 posted on 12/03/2021 6:46:46 PM PST by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: joshua c
"... bar him from school property?"

I'll bet they had one of those extremely effective "Gun Free Zone" signs. That put the kid on notice that he was definitely breaking the law.

136 posted on 12/03/2021 8:35:59 PM PST by William Tell
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To: smalltownslick

I am sorry to read that :( We lived next door to a terror as well, but not quite as bad as what you describe. Beer, not guns, were what this elementary school boy desired. His dad drank quite a bit and I’d see the boy sneaking behind our garage..with beer cans 1/2 full his dad didn’t finish the prior night..and drink them.

Fast forward to high school. You guessed it. Drunk driving 17 yr old runs head on into a light pole killing the girl he was driving home. His punishment? Not much, but it included having to visit her grave so many times a year. Perfect sentence right? NOT!


137 posted on 12/04/2021 6:28:40 AM PST by sevinufnine
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To: sevinufnine

If they had a prior criminal history they would not have passed the NCIS background check.


138 posted on 12/04/2021 7:05:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: sevinufnine

I believe that the “Ethan, don’t do it” text, which mom sent 30 minutes after reports of the shooting, meant for him not to turn the gun on himself.

This is tragic and should have been preventable, on several different levels. Letting him go back to the class, by both the parents and school, was unconscionable.


139 posted on 12/04/2021 10:37:45 AM PST by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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To: Paladin2

Treating mania, depression, etc. *is* medical care.


140 posted on 12/04/2021 10:47:45 AM PST by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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