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Job growth disappoints in November, with a gain of just 210,000, despite high hopes (missed- by more than 300K)
CNBC ^ | 12/3/2021 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 12/03/2021 7:15:03 AM PST by God luvs America

The U.S. economy created far fewer jobs than expected in November, in a sign that hiring started to slow even ahead of the new Covid threat, the Labor Department reported Friday.

Nonfarm payrolls increased by just 210,000 for the month, though the unemployment rate fell sharply to 4.2% from 4.6%, even though the labor force participation rate increased for the month to 61.8%, its highest level since March 2020.

The Dow Jones estimate was for 573,000 new jobs and a jobless level of 4.5% for an economy beset by a chronic labor shortage.

A more encompassing measure of unemployment that includes discouraged workers and those holding part-time jobs for economic reasons dropped even more, tumbling to 7.8% from 8.3%. The survey of households painted a more optimistic jobs picture, indicating an employment gain of 594,000 for the month.

“This report is a tale of two surveys,” said Nick Bunker, economic research director at jobs placement site Indeed. “The household survey shows accelerating employment gains, workers returning to the labor force, and low levels of involuntary part-time work. The payroll survey shows a significant deceleration in job growth, particularly in COVID-affected sectors.”


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Labor participation increases, jobs growth for November is barely a third of what's expected yet unemployment falls .4%?? Call me skeptical.
1 posted on 12/03/2021 7:15:03 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: God luvs America

“Unexpected.”


2 posted on 12/03/2021 7:17:05 AM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: God luvs America

Yet they keep bleating about the unemployment claims being sooooooo low. Lack of claims does NOT mean those dropping off the roles are working. Butt, too many people are a little slow on the uptake. Everywhere we go we see help wanted signs. Been seeing them for over a year. Talked to a health care worker yesterday and she said she was extremely frustrated due to the shortage of folks at the hospital. A lot of them apparently just quit. We didn’t ask why but sneaky suspicion CONvid shots may have played a part. Or lack thereof.


3 posted on 12/03/2021 7:19:06 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: God luvs America

“Green jobs” always disappear into crony donor bank accounts. That’s ‘why’ they love the green agenda.


4 posted on 12/03/2021 7:20:08 AM PST by Track9 (Agamemnon came home to a HRC type party. )
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To: God luvs America

Job growth of just 210,000 and the unemployment rate drops from 4.5% to 4.2%?

Get real!

If it drops another 210,000 in December, will the new rate be 3.9%?


5 posted on 12/03/2021 7:21:55 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: God luvs America
Ya, 11 Million "out of the job market" and THEN you calculate the unemployment rate....

Can I apply that logic to my tax return?

"Reportable Income" is what I have left after all my expenses are covered....

6 posted on 12/03/2021 7:23:03 AM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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To: God luvs America

Brandon rules!


7 posted on 12/03/2021 7:23:08 AM PST by JPG (You can't unjab the jab.)
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To: zeestephen

Of course. That’s Democrat math for you.


8 posted on 12/03/2021 7:25:55 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (Pets are no substitute for children.)
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To: God luvs America

Hasn’t every month been unexpectedly bad? The tone here seems to be that November was a sort of anomaly. I don’t think so. And the very predictable “unexpected” is annoying.


9 posted on 12/03/2021 7:28:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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So they expected nearly 500k jobs to be added with jobless rate of 4.5. They get 200k jobs and the jobless rate goes to 4.2 with an increase of people looking. Basic math miss by those estimating. These are experts?


10 posted on 12/03/2021 7:44:06 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: God luvs America

It was actually a good report. The headline doesn’t tell the real story. But it’s fashionable to be depressed right now.


11 posted on 12/03/2021 7:49:28 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: God luvs America

Could it be all those people who would not submit to the mandatory vax??


12 posted on 12/03/2021 7:51:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SaxxonWoods

How so when you miss by so much. I guess the glass is half full if you are a Brandon supporter.


13 posted on 12/03/2021 7:54:39 AM PST by cp124 (Lie, cheat and steal is the government norm.)
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To: God luvs America

Big disjunct between data sources. Unemployment and labor participation come from the household survey, payroll numbers come from payroll reports. Someone is going to have to reconcile that. Its happened before, but this month is way more than usual.


14 posted on 12/03/2021 7:58:35 AM PST by buwaya
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“Gallup reveals Bidenflation causing hardship for nearly half of Americans”

It’s funny how people will trust negative headlines and not even read the entire article about the subject. Ignorance is not beneficial to one’s economic life.


15 posted on 12/03/2021 8:04:05 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: SaxxonWoods

The household survey is a good report. The question is how accurate is it?

I like the St. Louis Fed EMRATIO. It gets both labor force and employment with no gaming. That one shows there is still quite a way to go to “normal”.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/EMRATIO


16 posted on 12/03/2021 8:08:17 AM PST by buwaya
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To: cp124

We may find out next month. Either the household survey or the employment report will adust, up or down. It may be timing, it may be seasonality adjustment being off, who knows.


17 posted on 12/03/2021 8:12:56 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

That is a very useful report.

But wahh-wahhing is in fashion, conservatives have completely lost their mojo. Conservatives used to be fighters and problem solvers, now we just sit around crying like little babies and whining about boogie men.


18 posted on 12/03/2021 8:13:40 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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To: God luvs America

Big miss in the article is that the markets are actually having a bad day. Futures missed bad.


19 posted on 12/03/2021 8:14:05 AM PST by buwaya
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To: God luvs America

Wonder how many illegals were hired but not reported we see nothing here.


20 posted on 12/03/2021 8:19:14 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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