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Manchin threatens 'zero' spending in blowup with Sanders: reports
The Hill ^ | October 21, 2021 | Joseph Choi

Posted on 10/21/2021 4:28:27 PM PDT by karpov

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) got into argument on Wednesday during which the centrist West Virginia senator said he was willing to let go of all of President Biden's social spending plan, according to an Axios report that has been corroborated by multiple other senators who witnessed the spat.

Fellow Democratic Sens. Jon Tester (Mont.) and Chris Coons (Del.), both of whom serve on the Senate Appropriations Committee and were both in the room when it happened, relayed details of the blowup to Axios.

According to Tester, Sanders said, "Joe said, 'I'm comfortable with nothing.' ... We need to do three-and-a-half [trillion dollars]."

"The truth is both of them are in different spots," Tester said of his two colleagues.

Manchin apparently confirmed this saying, "I'm comfortable with zero," and forming a zero with his fingers, according to Tester. Tester told Axios that he believes Manchin when he says he is fine with none of Biden's multitrillion-dollar social spending plan being passed.

Coons described the verbal quarrel as a "vigorous, 10-minute discussion." According to Coons, Manchin said, "We shouldn't do it at all," when speaking of the social spending plan.

"This will contribute to inflation. We've already passed the American Rescue Plan. We should just pass the infrastructure bill and, you know, pause for six months," Manchin said, according to the Delaware senator.

The Hill has reached out to Sanders's and Manchin's offices for comment on the argument.

Sanders and Manchin represent two vastly opposing sides of the Democratic Party, with the apparent divide being blamed for stalling bills considered key to Biden's agenda. The two senators, who are both members of Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer's (D-N.Y.) leadership team, have butted heads multiple times as negotiations on the spending bill continue.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Delaware; US: Montana; US: New York; US: Vermont; US: West Virginia
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If you live in West Virginia, please contact Manchin's office and tell him not to cave.
1 posted on 10/21/2021 4:28:27 PM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

Truth, or kabuki?

We shall see. Wasn’t there talk of voting by the end of October?


2 posted on 10/21/2021 4:31:27 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (FJB/LGB (Let's Go, Brandon!))
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To: karpov

How in the heck is it not Sanders and Pelousy’s Spending?

Did BiXiden send the bill over to the House or did the House and its lobbyists write it?


3 posted on 10/21/2021 4:31:32 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: karpov

Taxpayers get ready to blow $200 billion in West Virginia.


4 posted on 10/21/2021 4:31:46 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: karpov

Manchin is just looking for more earmarks and handouts.


5 posted on 10/21/2021 4:32:30 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: karpov

They’ve both gone on record as supposed 2A supporters.

Let them settle it with a duel.


6 posted on 10/21/2021 4:32:46 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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** Manchin said,...We should just pass the infrastructure bill and, you know, pause for six months,” **

old time RAT policymaking....ask for it all and accept a compromise for some of it and get the rest next time...


7 posted on 10/21/2021 4:34:41 PM PDT by stylin19a (when in doubt...empty the magazine)
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To: karpov

Nothing more than the prostitute and the john haggling over the price.


8 posted on 10/21/2021 4:36:40 PM PDT by twister881
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“This will contribute to inflation. We’ve already passed the American Rescue Plan. We should just pass the infrastructure bill and, you know, pause for six months,” Manchin said...

Hopefully the rest of the party is too stupid to follow
Manchin’s advice.


9 posted on 10/21/2021 4:37:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: twister881

LOL!


10 posted on 10/21/2021 4:38:01 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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Democratic Sens. Jon Tester (Mont.)

Add Manchin West Virginia

How the hell did you allow that to happen Montana / West Virginia..FAIL

11 posted on 10/21/2021 4:39:52 PM PDT by DAC21
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The Governor of West Virginia needs to give Joe a call and ask him to come back to Charleston for a “consultation”. Kind of like give him an offer he can’t refuse.


12 posted on 10/21/2021 4:41:57 PM PDT by technically right
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“They’ve both gone on record as supposed 2A supporters.”

Sanders is now a big gun control advocate!


13 posted on 10/21/2021 4:45:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

Soviet Sanders. Then may Manchin win the duel.


14 posted on 10/21/2021 4:47:08 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: karpov

Joe thinks it is about stimulating the economy. It is really about destroying the country with liberal programs.


15 posted on 10/21/2021 4:55:59 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
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To: karpov

West Virginians do not want this bill. If Manchin could get away with voring throwing 3.5 trillion in the trash can, he would. So, we have kabuki theatre with his trying to figure out how much he can get away with and keep his job.


16 posted on 10/21/2021 5:06:15 PM PDT by chuckee
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Hey Montanans, why aren’t you making Tester support Joe? That guy’s a goober looking fraud and you let him exist. He’s no better than my senators, but I live in NJ. What’s your excuse?


17 posted on 10/21/2021 5:09:11 PM PDT by No Left Turn
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To: DAC21

Tester “won” his seat initially when GOP Senator Conrad Burns was set up on phony criminal charges way back in 2006, but has faced subpar GOP opponents since. Manchin rode into the Senate shortly after Robert Byrd’s death when the state hadn’t fully gone GOP, and barely won reelection in 2018. I doubt either will win again in 2024.


18 posted on 10/21/2021 5:36:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (DEFEAT THE COUP D'ETAT BY THE STALINAZI DERP STATE !)
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To: karpov
The accidental shooting and killing on a Hollywood movie set will put gun control back in the news to distract.
19 posted on 10/21/2021 6:09:23 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: monkeyshine

“ Taxpayers get ready to blow $200 billion in West Virginia”

On coal?


20 posted on 10/21/2021 6:18:46 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (If you are vaccinated, you cannot get COVID from someone who is not vaccinated. Lighted up Karen!)
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