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Follow the Science – Except When it comes to Natural Immunity
American Thinker.com ^ | October 8, 2021 | Brian C. Joondeph M.D

Posted on 10/08/2021 3:00:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

Viruses and other infectious organisms have been around since long before humans walked the planet. While many microorganisms are helpful and necessary for human survival and function, others bring disease and death. Immunity is what prevents humans from being wiped out by a particularly virulent bug.

The CDC defines immunity as “protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.”

How does one achieve immunity? As the CDC explains, there are two ways.

Natural immunity is acquired from exposure to the disease organism through infection with the actual disease.

Vaccine-induced immunity is acquired through the introduction of a killed or weakened form of the disease organism through vaccination.

Vaccines have not been around forever, the first one being the smallpox vaccine invented in 1796. Since then, we have had many other vaccines including measles, mumps, hepatitis, and shingles. Yet we haven’t had efficacious vaccines for respiratory viruses, with the flu vaccine providing only about 50 percent effectiveness, depending on the season.

Without natural immunity, many past viral illnesses, hundreds or thousands of years ago, would have been extinction events, except for the fact that those who were infected and survived now had immunity to that particular virus and perhaps similar future viruses. Such immunity might be passed along to children as well via the placenta or through nursing.

Yet today, any discussion of natural immunity is dismissed as some QAnon conspiracy theory, earning one derision or censorship from the same people or organizations who urge us to “follow the science,” but only their science. Why are we only to follow state-approved science and ignore any science that doesn’t fit the government narrative?

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: covid; vaccination

1 posted on 10/08/2021 3:00:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Natural immunity here (actually, Super Immunity.) As we've seen in the news for at least the last several years now, yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's fact.

Natural immunity was taught in Jr. High School / early High School when I grew up. It appears it's not even being taught today.

2 posted on 10/08/2021 3:09:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kaslin

So should I deliberately expose myself to the virus so I become immune?
Or get vaccinated So I am less immune?


3 posted on 10/08/2021 3:24:19 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: Kaslin

So should I deliberately expose myself to the virus so I become immune?
Or get vaccinated So I am less immune?


4 posted on 10/08/2021 3:24:25 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: Kaslin
The CDC defines immunity as “protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.”

Geez, the CDC can't even get THAT right. This statement is not true at all! If exposed to the virus, it can and/or will infect you. If you have natural immunity, your body will identify it upon infection or invasion and attack and kill it before it replicates and does damage to cells. This is basic 101 immunity.

5 posted on 10/08/2021 3:57:11 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Kaslin

Kinda makes you wonder what magic is in the Covid-19 ‘vaccine’, that makes authoritarian types so bloodthirsty about everyone getting the jab, the ‘science’ be damned.


6 posted on 10/08/2021 4:05:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Kaslin

Waiting for the democrat/media/big pharma/Faux-xi cheerleaders on here to say the death serum is perfectly safe and 98% effective.


7 posted on 10/08/2021 4:07:21 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: larryjohnson

You could get death jabbed to force your immune system to produce a deadly spike protein for one strain of something, and nothing else, thereby making your immune system basically useless.

Your choice.


8 posted on 10/08/2021 4:09:01 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Joe Brower

9 posted on 10/08/2021 4:09:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: wastedyears

My son and I were talking about this yesterday. He has done contract work in a hospital setting every working day since the pandemic started, including in covid patient rooms, he has been around people ill with covid in close quarters, he has taken care of sick friends, he has traveled, has gone to big group events like baseball games, has never worn a mask outside of work, and he’s not the greatest at hand washing, etc.

He never got sick. He may not have covid antibodies, but he definitely has been able to repel this virus.

Today his work is having a meeting with the “unvaxxed”, probably to announce a mandate. He is off today and will miss it (planned a month ago) but he is pretty furious about it.

Like the nurses, a year ago he was a hero. At one time he was the only person at his company still working. He got 2 promotions during this time because he busted his backside doing the work of several people being out. He said after all of that, and now they want to force him to take an experimental vaccine and potentially destroy whatever is working in his body to fight off the covid. Plus he’s mid 20s, his chance of dying of covid are almost nil. He’s an athlete so his chance of getting myocarditis is a real concern.

It baffles the mind. He’s standing up. Updated his resume and he’s already interviewing. He said his first question to interviewers is will the mandate the shot.


10 posted on 10/08/2021 4:23:25 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Joe Brower

Kinda makes you wonder what magic is in the Covid-19 ‘vaccine’, that makes authoritarian types so bloodthirsty about everyone getting the jab, the ‘science’ be damned.

Because if 80% of the populace has already acquired immunity thru prior infection, that’s going to cut Pfizer’s profits on the covid vaccine by 80%.


11 posted on 10/08/2021 4:59:04 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("Let's go, Brandon!")
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To: Kaslin
Natural immunity is acquired from exposure to the disease organism through infection with the actual disease.

FYI, This was Intentionally and Quietly REMOVED from the CDC's "definition" of Immunity on December 17 2019!!!
12 posted on 10/08/2021 5:46:27 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Joe Brower
From the article:
"Any acknowledgement of natural immunity might cut into Big Pharma’s profits and throw water on the endless rules and diktats we live under."

Big pharma profits are how they get them to play along, the REAL reason is totalitarian control.

13 posted on 10/08/2021 6:42:01 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Si vis pacem, para bellum. )
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To: LilFarmer

He never got sick. He may not have covid antibodies, but he definitely has been able to repel this virus.

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Like your son, I am one of these people who, at least so far has been able to repel disease. We are the real naturally immune but even though I know my 77 year old immune system can’t be what it once was, I still trust it over any of these so called vaccines. There has to be lot of us out there but we are only labeled those who haven’t got it yet. We’ll maybe, maybe not.

I think people who’ve had the Fauci virus and recovered should have a super natural status. My daughter is one of those people and I told her I would disown her if she got anywhere near a needle. BTW I was around her when she had it and didn’t catch it.


14 posted on 10/08/2021 7:02:32 AM PDT by waredbird
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To: Kaslin
Those of you who recognise the following image will understand why all computer weather simulations are garbage.

More information can be found HERE(wikipedia), or do a search for "Lorenz System".
There is no way to predict the weather on any significant timeline.
15 posted on 10/08/2021 8:01:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

Sorry folks. Wrong thread. That should have gone here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4001715/posts


16 posted on 10/08/2021 8:02:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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