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German Social Democrats beat conservatives in vote to decide Merkel successor
Reuters ^ | 26/9/21 | Thomas Escritt and Paul Carrel

Posted on 09/28/2021 12:06:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: Eleutheria5

Merkel? Merkel..?
Is that Macron’s wife?


21 posted on 09/28/2021 1:54:49 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: the_individual2014
"Not my country, not my sausages"

Hopefully, it won't become a, "wurst case scenario"

22 posted on 09/28/2021 2:05:12 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: AU72

Old Adolph had his “mandate” with 32%—in the last election until he croaked.

Sociopaths go for it now and never apologize...


23 posted on 09/28/2021 2:07:22 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: devere

So what’s wrong with AFD?


24 posted on 09/28/2021 2:33:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: outofsalt

Sausages, Macaroni...What’s with these Europeans? Are they hungry? I don’t know what a Merkel is, but I won’t eat any of it. Conjures up images of overweight nudists.


25 posted on 09/28/2021 2:35:00 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: Eleutheria5

“She made me feel sorry for Germans. I still do”,

I don’t, they are responsible for their own choices, as we all are.


26 posted on 09/28/2021 2:38:13 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014

So you “chose” Biden? Did the border towns in Texas choose him? Did the MAGA shaman? Electoral politics can come up with some bizarre results, and nations are aggregates that include lots of people who are being dragged along for the ride because of the result of an election, a result that they actively fought against. I feel sorry for Germans. And Texans and Australians, too.


27 posted on 09/28/2021 3:07:34 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: devere
The “right” (CSU/CDU, FDP, AFD) have an absolute majority in the new German parliament. It’s doubtful they will get together to use it due to the other parties boycotting AFD.

Yes, that's not one of the coalition possibilities the media is talking about. It's pretty much taken for granted that the SPD will pick the coalition partners, and the only opportunity the CDU has is to throw in with the FDP and the Greens.

28 posted on 09/28/2021 3:20:00 PM PDT by x
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To: Eleutheria5

Certain majority in Germany did however, individuals did vote against it but still, I mean as one navy man years ago put it in a blunt way people are the government, sorry man, I feel no more sorrow for them just like afghanistan or any nation for that matter, lets agree to disagree.


29 posted on 09/28/2021 3:29:54 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: Eleutheria5

No difference. Y’all think the Elites have formed a uniparty here. You should see Germany. It’s far worse there.


30 posted on 09/28/2021 3:45:23 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: the_individual2014

We can agree to disagree, but merely demanding that your opinion be coherent and defensible is not “disagreement,” per se. Let’s examine your opinion briefly.

“people are the government”

So Germany in 1934 elected you-know-who as chancellor with a mere plurality. He formed a coalition, and strange things started happening to his coalition partners. Christian-Right went full Nazi, betraying their voters. Others died suddenly. Eventually, there was only one party, the National Socialists, left standing, which began incrementally persecuting Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, communists. They, I suppose, were also the government, consenting to their incremental persecution and eventual program of extermination.

Angela Merkel the “conservative” becomes the chancellor, and orders Germany to admit a horde of “refugees” who proceed to rape, murder and plunder at will. Did the husbands of the raped women vote for their wives to be raped, the fathers for their daughters, the brothers their sisters, assuming incorrectly that the victims were always female? They voted for a supposedly conservative party with Angela Merkel as chancellor. They did not vote for mass invasion by a horde of sociopaths. It was not foreseeable that this was what they would get.

So, too, with Joe Biden. Some people did vote for him. Those that were leftist crazies should be congratulated. Those that just didn’t like nasty tweets and wanted higher COLAs on their Social Security benefits, or whatever, did not vote for an end to domestic energy and a re-start of the Nordstram 2 pipeline between Russia and Germany, or the insane pull-out from Afghanistan. And those of us with red hats in our hearts wanted none of this. It’s bait and switch and we didn’t bite the bait, either.

Afghanistan, for that matter, is not ruled by duly elected leaders. It has been conquered, because America decided to let them be conquered, and nobody voted for America, either. The mass slaughter of ethnic minorities that the Taliban was slaughtering before will re-commence. The beating/stoning/ beheading of women who dare show their face in public and a little ankle besides already has. By no stretch are the people of Afghanistan its government.

People are not the government, especially not when the government is a fraud and a bully from the getgo. Then people are then the subjects of the government, and its victims. And sorrow for them is appropriate and right. Helping them in any way, even if only by lending moral support is the only decent thing to do.


31 posted on 09/29/2021 5:49:05 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hard to choose a side. Social Democrats = Socialists, but Merkle was a totalitarian b***h, and her party was the other side (who narrowly lost).

No good guys in this fight.


32 posted on 09/29/2021 5:51:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Lazamataz

There’s less-bad versus awful. Merkel’s gone. Munchkins aren’t yet ready to sing and dance, but that’s something.


33 posted on 09/29/2021 6:02:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: Eleutheria5

I think you are not really understanding what I mean, when I say people are the government if the majority of the citizens want to go in a certain way, then that is what will happen the minority feelings be damned, case in point the recall election in CA Newsom VS Elder, which Newsom won. Not everyone voted for Newsom, it was what it was, and consequences that will come from it, and if the people start to hate it then they need to vote him and his ilk out next election, they were not forced to vote the way they did, or coerced, thus my point stand.

About Nazi Germany, my point stands. While there were people that were against Hitler and voted against him (Jews Communists, Unionsts) the Majority of Germans supported him, happy to allow him the power he took to make himself Der Fuhrer and were willing to follow him to hell even with Bomber Harris and the Soviets killing and destroying them, the people could have said enough and rose up to depose him,except for a brave few that tried, they didnt.

Same with modern Germany, yeah they did not forsee the refugee crisis that lead to females that got raped. People may not have voted for Merkel again because of it and along with the people of Germany had a chance to get rid of her and her party, but they did not, the majority wanted her and her party back in power end of story and were not bullied or forced to vote for them.

Biden was voted in, until fraud is proven in the courts and removed, it is a done deal, if not removed then come 2024 we as nation can choose a different president and if the Majority votes for him via electoral college, then Biden is gone.

Afghanistan, once more my point stands, and to be honest and it sucks to say it the Taliban has barbaric as they are they are the legitimate government of A Stan as things are, thats what happens when you withdraw they way we did, thats what happens when someone loses, the other side takes over, and you dont get a say, and if the people tired of it they can do what people did Zaire and Romania and rise up against their oppressors, that is for them to decide not us.

We have bigger crap here at home and it angers me to no end why Americans cant seem to worry about their own nation for once. I dont give a $hit about Deutschland or any other country for that matter, from the debt that is increasing, the taxes we may get hit with, the decay in society, our southern border, the anti intellectualism, the runing of our education system, and on and on, we got problems and Germany aint one.

Get it now.


34 posted on 09/29/2021 11:19:48 AM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014

You don’t get a very central point: Hitler did not get a majority. He coopted representative government and eliminated the coalition that put him in power, using trickery, murder and fear tactics.

Democrats did not have a majority in Texas, but they are destroying Texas, which voted overwhelmingly for Trump.

The people of Afghanistan, to the extent that they think of themselves as a single nation, cannot rise up against the Taliban, because they’ve got all the high-tech toys left behind by the Americans, and a list of people to kill, courtesy of the Americans.

Merkel’s party has been on the wane since 2018, but the rapefugees keep coming, even though she’ll be out of power next year.

Australia didn’t vote for endless lockdowns, but here it is.

Bottom line: Democracy is dying, and it’s a global phenomenon. And so we have to care about what’s going on in each of the places where it’s being devoured on the stalk by weavels. Because it’s happening everywhere. If we don’t hang together, we’ll hang separately. And that goes for present-day Germany as well as Texas and Australia. Free speech is going. So are gun rights, and so are fair elections. And it’s the same everywhere.

Bottom line: Democratic, elected government that reflects the will of the people is dying.


35 posted on 09/29/2021 11:56:53 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: Eleutheria5

In Texas the Democrats are hurting Texas because the people are starting to vote for them, why I do not know, maybe migration from the blue states.

And about Germany and Australia, there is nothing we can do about it, we are not citizens, we dont have a say there, the people there need to fix it. I speak to Germans here who come to Belgium to visit and they seem happy with the so called rapefugees, stupid I guess, its their choice, let them take who they want, its not my country, I got no dog in that fight. Australia yeah they didnt vote for it but the people need to rise up against it which they are starting to.

Bottom line: Yeah democracy is dying, but independent nations need to fix their own mess, and solve their own internal issues, and it make take a while, but thats how it is, again I care about the crap in the US for the time being which there is a plethora of issues going on.


36 posted on 09/29/2021 1:30:03 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: the_individual2014

The communists fight internationally, including in the various arenas in the US. But you want to combat them purely domestically “for the time being,” which means remaining on the defensive indefinitely. Some nations are so overwhelmed that they cannot find their own way out of the morass they are in.

For example, Cuba had a big show of marching in the streets shouting “Libertad!” But the MSM ignored it, and they are being crushed without mercy, if they’re still fighting at all. What they couldn’t ignore, they pretended was unrest due to covid restrictions or shortages.

What to do? Attempt another Bay of Pigs invasion? Of course not. But subversion can be accomplished very easily, safely and cheaply. Just off the coast of Haiti is a small island called Tortuga. It used to be used for naval artillery practice, but Sharpton, et al., put a stop to that by claiming it was causing cancer in the small fishing village there. But the island is still there, and still neglected and forgotten by the world. It used to be a pirate enclave. If some manner of wireless communication that the communists can’t control were to be discreetly placed and maintained there, or supplies not controlled by the communists could be smuggled from there, that could be used to penetrate the iron curtain and give some hope to the Cubans yearning for freedom there.

Similar things can be done with Germany, Australia, and other areas of concern.

As for Texas, since I’m beyond the reach of the US law here in Israel, I can freely urge Texans to start taking pot shots at the Coyotes, who will suddenly find their lives much more dangerous. Take a shot from behind a rise, shoot the f@#$ dead, and then haul ass. Border Patrol will arrive a little too late. Invaders will find themselves without their shepherds to cross the Rio Grande.

Another, less violent avenue would be to arrive with a bus, tell all the invaders to hop on, and deliver them to the stoop of any one of Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Kamalla Harris, or Nanshy’s many manshionsh (shic). They want to impose their immigration whims on Main Street USA. I say impose them right back on the more expensive zip codes where the rich, powerful and stupid reside. Let’s see how 90210 likes a flood of Hondurans in their neighborhood.

You can’t just fight a defensive cold civil war against these people anymore. You can’t just wait for them to steal the mid-terms, either. Time to go on the offensive, but to fight smart, guerilla warfare. No need for F16s or nukes. Just intelligent use of what resources one does have, including, but not limited to, firearms. Change the rules, win the game.


37 posted on 09/29/2021 3:16:32 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Hard times: hard men. Hard men: soft times. Soft times: soft men. Soft men: hard times)
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To: Rummyfan

“The Hun is either at your feet or at your throat’’.- Winston Churchill.


38 posted on 10/02/2021 2:07:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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