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Amnesty Alert: Bill ‘Blows Away All Numerical Limits’ on Employer-Based Green Cards — for an Entire Decade
Breitbart ^ | 14 Sep 2021 | NEIL MUNRO

Posted on 09/14/2021 8:48:59 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Brian Griffin

In the 1980’s the roofing, drywall and siding contractors started losing the contracts to Hispanic contractors who used illegals for the work. By the 1990’s it was almost impossible to find a non-union contractor in these fields. I had several friends that were roofing and dry wall contractors that said they could not compete with the Hispanic contractors unless they hired illegals, which they refused to do. They eventually went out of business and found other fields to get into to survive.


41 posted on 09/14/2021 7:22:53 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
The minimum wage should be ABOLISHED. It's practically irrelevant now.

Any Republican talking like that is doomed to extinction. Get real.

42 posted on 09/15/2021 3:38:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
Any Republican talking like that is doomed to extinction. Get real

LOL YOU need to 'get real'. The minimum wage in Kentucky is $7.25. But, a worker with zero experience can get a job at almost any business in town for at least $15 per hour. Many are paying $17 - $20 per hour.

The MARKET is setting the minimum rate. Free markets work, when not over-whelmed with cheap illegal labor, or flooded with foreign tech workers holding green cards.

43 posted on 09/15/2021 6:02:48 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

It’s a political issue not an economic one. Get it? No you don’t....


44 posted on 09/15/2021 6:18:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Yes... I get it. You want to capitulate on a basic principle for political expediency.

It’s BAD for business. It’s ANTI-freedom.
It’s worth opposing when necessary. Not a lead item in a political agenda. But, not something to be overly feared.


45 posted on 09/15/2021 7:13:17 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: central_va

Republicans don’t want people working for a “minimum wage”... we want people to rise above. There shouldn’t be ANY minimum... If there is, it should only be to protect young workers, just starting out.

Artificially raising it, by government fiat, just keeps young people from being able to find work. It’s heartless.


46 posted on 09/15/2021 7:24:00 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Yes... I get it. You want to capitulate on a basic principle for political expediency.

Wow, the min wage was set up by our ancestors and not us. We have to live with it. I hate that is is used as political bludgeon and our side is so stupid not to adroitly handle it.

47 posted on 09/15/2021 7:35:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
It’s BAD for business. It’s ANTI-freedom.

Setting a floor on wages is not anti freedom.

48 posted on 09/15/2021 7:35:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Artificially raising it, by government fiat, just keeps young people from being able to find work. It’s heartless.

There is no historical data to back up the assertion that raising the min ages raises the unemployment rate.

49 posted on 09/15/2021 7:37:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Hojczyk

What FJB has done over the past eight months is an all-out attack on our Republic, on our Constitution and on capitalism. It should be treated as such and he should be reckoned with as such.


50 posted on 09/15/2021 7:39:20 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
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To: SomeCallMeTim
A new government watchdog report found that Amazon, Walmart, and McDonald’s were among the top employers of SNAP and Medicaid recipients

Link here

51 posted on 09/15/2021 7:39:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Yes... it is anti-freedom.

I SHOULD have the freedom to accept whatever wage I think my labor is worth... if I can find someone willing to pay it.

You really don’t understand “Freedom” do you?


52 posted on 09/15/2021 9:44:57 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: central_va
There is no historical data to back up the assertion that raising the min ages raises the unemployment rate.

Really? So, the LAW of supply and demand doesn't apply to labor?

This study, from Seattle, found that workers in the city had the hours cut (businesses had to tighten the belt). The workers made up for it by getting 2nd jobs, OUTSIDE of Seattle. Yea, that's a REAL success.

And there was a decrease in NEW workers... ie: people at the low end of experience.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w25182?utm_campaign=ntw&utm_medium=email&utm_source=ntwg17

And, then... there's this:

https://mises.org/library/yes-minimum-wages-still-increase-unemployment

I'm fine with local communities, even States doing what they want with wages. I don't believe there should be ANY National minimum. The best way to get rid of it is, exactly what we've done: Ignore it, let it become obsolete as wages rise on their own.

53 posted on 09/15/2021 9:53:29 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: central_va
A new government watchdog report found that Amazon, Walmart, and McDonald’s were among the top employers of SNAP and Medicaid recipients

So what? They pay what the HAVE to pay to get workers, and no more. They also provide LOW prices to their customers.

Maybe, we should cut back on SNAP and Medicaid benefits? People might work even more hours.

54 posted on 09/15/2021 9:56:51 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
So what? They pay what the HAVE to pay to get workers, and no more. They also provide LOW prices to their customers.

You are an idiot. Yes, The Republican Party is the stupid party.

55 posted on 09/15/2021 9:58:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Unemployment and the Effects of the Minimum Wage

With the “Fight for $15” making headlines, opinions abound about whether raising the federal minimum wage will have a positive or negative effect on unemployment rates. Advocates of an increase cite the impossible task of making ends meet on today’s paltry sum of $7.25 an hour and say an increase would have little effect on the overall economy. Those against such a move predict that doing so would cause employers to lay off more and hire less—raising unemployment rates as a result. As is often the case with such emotionally charged issues, especially in an election year, the broader conversation about the minimum wage tends to involve more feeling than historical fact. To balance such a dynamic, we decided to turn to the data to see what it reveals.

Correlation Between Unemployment and the Minimum Wage In the series of charts below, we show the history of the federal minimum wage and unemployment since 1930 with visualizations that indicate whether there seems to be any correlation between the two. In one graph, we adjusted the minimum wage for inflation. As you can see on the scatterplots, there appears to be no correlation when adjusting the minimum wage for inflation, and a very slim to no correlation when inflation is not part of the equation. In fact, there are several periods in which unemployment was at some of its lowest levels while employees also enjoyed highs in adjusted minimum wage rates—including the mid-1940s, the late 1960s and our current era. Adjusting for inflation gives a more accurate depiction of the data, since the cost of living has a significant influence on how far a dollar can be stretched at any given time.

56 posted on 09/15/2021 10:07:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
You are an idiot.

You must be a liberal. They always devolved into name-calling.

Let me break some news to you: Businesses pay what they NEED to pay to keep the kinds of workers they want. Walmart is not a Social Giveaway program, they're trying to make a profit. When they can't find enough workers to keep the doors open, they INCREASE their pay. That's how it works. They operate at very low margins, and provide low cost products to people who need low prices.

If the National Min Wage is raised now, it won't show any impact... because the ACTUAL average starting wage for most of the country has already moved FAR ahead of $7.25 /hr. It's OBSOLETE. That's the way it has been for nearly all of the national min wage increases.

There is no reason for a National Min wage. States are perfectly capable of setting rates on their own. Then, we have 50 regions competing for the kinds of workers they want. It's just another beloved play by liberals to FORCE their warped values on parts of the country that REJECT them.

57 posted on 09/15/2021 11:07:50 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
It's OBSOLETE. That's the way it has been for nearly all of the national min wage increases.

It doesn't matter what you or I think about it. It is here to stay and it's a nasty thing that Republicans don't seem to get how to play it.

58 posted on 09/15/2021 1:50:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
The way to PLAY IT is:

Let the States do what they like. Just stay away from a NATIONAL minimum.

We're a big country... with extremes. Local governance is BETTER governance. New York City is not the same as West Texas.

59 posted on 09/15/2021 3:12:01 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Let the States do what they like. Just stay away from a NATIONAL minimum.

Democrats will never go along with that. Deal with POLITICAL reality.

60 posted on 09/16/2021 2:58:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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