Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Very Concerning Evidence of Vote Fraud in California Recall Election
Townhall.com ^ | September 14, 2021 | John Lott Jr

Posted on 09/14/2021 6:18:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from Republican gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

There is increasing evidence of vote fraud in the California recall election.

Election officials say they are fixing these problems. In the Torrance case, voters whose ballots were found in the car will be sent new ones. In the San Fernando valley, provisional ballots will be issued to those who say they hadn’t already voted.

But these “fixes” only correct part of the problem. Election officials can only send new ballots to replace those that they discover to be stolen. Provisional ballots can only be issued to those who try to vote and are stopped. 

Since 2010, turnout for virtually every special election in California has been below 40% — often well below that. So for every thousand ballots that are stolen and not caught, perhaps 400 people will try to vote and be given provisional ballots. But for the remaining 600 ballots will be fraudulently cast. 

There’s no reason to think that election officials are discovering all stolen ballots.  Fraud is usually only discovered when someone tries to vote and discovers that a vote was already cast in their name. But not everyone tries to vote.

The Carter-Baker report argued that one of the big problems with absentee voting was the difficulty in detecting fraud. “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.”

Larry Elder’s campaign website is asking people to report incidents of election fraud. Reporters are asking Larry Elder to announce that he won’t question the election outcome.

California Governor Gavin Newsom calls this a “extension of the Big Lie.” "We're four days out, the election hasn't even happened, and now they're all claiming election fraud,” says Jennifer Siebel Newsom, Newsom’s wife. “I think it's important to highlight that.” 

This year’s big election reform battles in Georgia and Texas have been over requirements that voters have to record a unique identifier number on their absentee ballot. For example, if they don’t have a driver’s license or some other form of state issued ID, they can put down the last four digits of their Social Security number.

Elder and Republican state legislators in Georgia and Texas aren’t the only ones with concerns about identifying those who are voting. A new Rasmussen Report survey shows that 79% of likely voters think that it is “very important” to prevent cheating in elections. Another 11% think that it is “somewhat important.” Among the most interesting findings: 72% of black likely voters support photo voter IDs. So too do 79% of those who are neither white nor black. 

Support among whites and blacks is virtually identical. It’s hard to see what’s racist about voter ID laws. 

Despite claims that voter IDs discriminate against the poor and least educated, the poor and least educated actually show the highest levels of support for IDs: 79% support among those who attended high school but didn’t graduate, and 78% among those earning less than $30,000 per year. 

Even a plurality of Democrats (61%) and liberals (48%) support photo voter IDs. When pressed, forty-eight percent of those who answered that voter IDs were “not at all important” in fact reluctantly support them. The only groups that don’t support these identification rules are those who believe that preventing cheating in elections is “not very important” (23%) and those who are “unsure” of their level of education (28%).

People around the world share Americans’ concerns over voter fraud. No other country mails out ballots to all registered voters. Most don’t even allow absentee ballots. 

Seventy-four percent of European countries entirely ban absentee voting for citizens who reside domestically. Another 21% require government issued photo IDs for absentee voting, and some of those countries limit it to those who are hospitalized or in the military (with third-party verification). These countries also don’t send absentee ballots in the mail, but instead require that they be collected.

Many countries have learned these lessons the hard way. France used to have absentee ballot rules similar to ours, but the country banned absentee ballots in 1975 because of massive fraud in the island region of Corsica.  The government discovered that hundreds of thousands of postal ballots were stolen or bought, and that others were cast in the names of dead people.

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S.. This drove the transition to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. 

Vote-buying had been pervasive. My research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot.

If concern about voter fraud is delusional, it is a delusion shared by most of the world. The difference is that the rest of the world has broad agreement across parties to prevent it. America is the outlier. 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: gavinnewsom; kalifornia; larryelder; recallelections
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

1 posted on 09/14/2021 6:18:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Massive vote fraud is now an accepted feature of US elections. Change my mind.


2 posted on 09/14/2021 6:20:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
Election officials say they are fixing these problems.

A significant typo: "election officials" should read "Democrats/Leftists"

3 posted on 09/14/2021 6:22:36 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

Crickets. Q-anon rumors. Boogaloo boyz lies. White suprema-cyst disinformation.


4 posted on 09/14/2021 6:24:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Duh. Never saw this coming.~sarc


5 posted on 09/14/2021 6:24:01 AM PDT by albie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Why can’t the Republicans stop this shit? I’ll tell you why they’re in on the scam.


6 posted on 09/14/2021 6:25:12 AM PDT by Doofer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

When dims cheat it is for the greater good.


7 posted on 09/14/2021 6:27:05 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
In the San Fernando Valley, election officials are telling Republican voters that they have already voted.

As far as we know they were telling Republicans and Democrats that they had already voted.

8 posted on 09/14/2021 6:30:37 AM PDT by semimojo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Very concerning”?

How about expected, and ignored.


9 posted on 09/14/2021 6:32:22 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

McCarthy & Mitch got this.


10 posted on 09/14/2021 6:41:21 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JonPreston

John Lott the gun guy?


11 posted on 09/14/2021 6:45:50 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Doofer
'Why can’t the Republicans stop this shit? I’ll tell you why they’re in on the scam"

Seems likely.

12 posted on 09/14/2021 6:49:42 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never b.e a peaceful slave in a new socialist America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Has FOX News called the election yet?

Or did that happen last week?


13 posted on 09/14/2021 6:55:42 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Democrats control election boards across the country. Democrats have tailored elections to facilitate cheating on multiple levels.The US voting system is one of the worlds most difficult to detect cheating, by design. The number of democrats fraudulently elected is higher than anyone could imagine. Whenever the GOP says anything about voter fraud, the democrats and the news media attack and mock them, and the GOP retreat back under their desk.


14 posted on 09/14/2021 6:57:00 AM PDT by robel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

“elections” lol....

There’s a zero percent chance that Elder will win. Unless of course Dominion has a reason for him to win (like they did Brian Kemp). Then there’s a 100% chance that he will win.

It’s that simple.


15 posted on 09/14/2021 7:00:13 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

This is a bit of a lie.
Back in Carter years there were no mailin ballots. Absentee ballots are not mailin. This is modern day MSM obfuscation. Absentee ballots are issued only to known/verified register voters and you have to “call in “ to get one. It’s like checking out a library book.
Mailin ballots, on the other hand, are a con job created during the plandemic to corrupt all elections forevermore. They are mailed out to anyone who ever got mail delivered — kinda. Many (thousands, check Minnesota and Michigan records) are mailed to empty lots. They are then supposedly voted on and mailed back — by gawd only knows who.
Back in Carter years, absentee ballots were the greatest risk. But, compared to mailin, orders of magnitude more secure.


16 posted on 09/14/2021 7:00:22 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Dems have pulled out all the stops to win this. Everybody knows this except the RNC. No attempts have been made to stop the corruption. The voting computers are controlled by the highest bidder to Dominion.


17 posted on 09/14/2021 7:01:04 AM PDT by chopperk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Doofer

No, definitely no. CaCaLand has been a one-party state for years, since Reagan.

Demos control everything out here, GOP has no voice. If GOP were corrupt, too, no one would notice.


18 posted on 09/14/2021 7:02:22 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

This will be proof that we have no vote anymore. Everyone knows and sees the cheating and then we are supposed to accept the outcome and keep our mouth shut and pretend it was legit.


19 posted on 09/14/2021 7:03:38 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

The fix is in.

If you complain you are just a sore loser.

Blah, blah, blah.

All hail Governor Nuisance, a Phoenix who rose from the ashes to lead CA and the rest of the Nation into glory.

Did I mention, blah, blah, blah?


20 posted on 09/14/2021 7:03:57 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Trump - Make America Great Again / Xiden - Make America Grovel Again...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson