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Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest and Staff Member Being ‘Vaccinated’
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| J.D. Rucker • Aug. 5, 2021
Posted on 08/05/2021 8:43:50 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
That’s false.
RT-PCR testing triggers based on a nucleotide sequence which is unique to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Influenza isn’t even remotely related to SARS-CoV-2. They’re as closely related as humans are to snails: not even in the same phylum. So the idea that a test couldn’t distinguish between them is laughable. You’re misunderstanding the EUA announcement from the CDC. What they said was they want one test that looks for multiple possible causes for someone that has symptoms which could potentially be any one of several things. In other words, if you do have the flu, going to get a COVID-19 test today is worthless because all you get is a “no, you don’t have COVID”. What CDC has said is that testing should be able to tell that person “no, you don’t have COVID, what you DO have is the flu, so go get treatment for that.”
In terms of distinguishing variants, that can only be done by whole genome sequencing. An individual who tests positive for SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t know which variant it is. Random selections of positive specimens are sent for whole genome sequencing where the specific variant is determined so that the spread and distribution of variants can be tracked around the country. Whole genome sequencing is expensive (about $130 per test when done at bulk rates) and very time consuming. There are insufficient funds and resources to do it for everyone. That’s why you don’t know which variant you have if you come up positive. You just get a positive or negative result from an RT-PCR test.
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posted on
08/05/2021 10:51:26 AM PDT
by
2aProtectsTheRest
(The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
To: wildcard_redneck
My guess is that if a person has already had Covid they are not catching it again The problem is that the leading test used to detect Covid over the past year is now known to have had up to a 90% false positive rate. So a lot of “Covid cases” were actually the flu or something else. These people have no natural immunity even though they were told that they had Covid.
To: fireman15
There are a growing number of doctors calling this the PCR pandemic because of the complete bungling of the testing.
Also, the massive mishandling of patients, particularly the elderly, seems to have created a lot of the deaths. Often you see two countries that share a border, one had large numbers of excess deaths, the other had none.
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
In other words, if you do have the flu, going to get a COVID-19 test today is worthless because all you get is a “no, you don't have COVID”. We have a very rare situation where the two of us agree. You are correct that the COVID tests have largely been worthless. But of course not even remotely because of the reason you have just stated. People were not told “no, you don't have COVID” when they had the flu. As you are well aware millions of people who had the flu were told over the last year that they had Covid due to a false positive rate approaching or exceeding 90% in some of the most commonly used Covid tests.
To: Red Badger
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posted on
08/05/2021 11:16:30 AM PDT
by
moovova
(Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
To: Red Badger
That’s because the vaccines don’t work in case you haven’t noticed
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posted on
08/05/2021 11:17:29 AM PDT
by
NWFree
(Somebody has to say it)
To: NWFree
“95% of the severe patients are vaccinated”.
“85-90% of the hospitalizations are in Fully vaccinated people.”
“We are opening more and more COVID wards.”
“The effectiveness of the vaccine is waning/fading out”
(Dr. Kobi Haviv, earlier today on Chanel 13
@newsisrael13
)
Robert W Malone, MD
@RWMaloneMD
Replying to
@RWMaloneMD
If this holds true and is verified, this is looking more and more like ADE
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posted on
08/05/2021 11:22:31 AM PDT
by
smoky415
To: dinodino
Please provide a citation for your claim of 40% effectiveness. Not my claim... and it is widely known and repeated. Here is a link From MSN...probably one of government approved outlets of news on Covid... that you might actually pay attention to. It is heavily sugar coated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-the-delta-variant-could-change-the-world-of-coronavirus-vaccine-stocks/ar-AAMSObl
“But against the delta variant, both are likely to struggle. Preliminary data from the Israeli Ministry of Health suggests that Pfizer's vaccine could be only 39% effective at preventing symptomatic infections from the variant”
“If that sounds like bad news for Pfizer and Moderna shareholders, it isn't. The vaccines made by Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ) and AstraZeneca (NASDAQ: AZN) appear to perform even worse against the variant. In fact, they're suspected of performing so much worse that public health officials in places like Italy are allowing certain people who have received jabs of these two vaccines to get booster shots of Pfizer or Moderna. This hodgepodge vaccination solution is supported by a growing body of evidence, and it's bad news for AstraZeneca as well as Johnson & Johnson.”
To: Jan_Sobieski
You tell me how many cases of smallpox, polio, tb, yellow fever we see in the United States each year after vaccination. And then you tell me WHY we have those numbers (or lack there of).
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posted on
08/05/2021 11:30:52 AM PDT
by
coop71
To: dinodino
I am glad my dtap vaccination is working.
I have never heard of a person getting lockjaw if they were vaccinated for tetanus.
the words need to change for this corona virus hysteria or all vaccinations are going to take a hit on credibility.
To: fireman15
Please cite from a reputable journal, not a fake “news” source like CNN or MSN.
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posted on
08/05/2021 12:00:43 PM PDT
by
dinodino
( )
To: V_TWIN; dinodino
"
Has it crossed your mind for maybe a second that these vaccines aren’t very effective? Breakthrough infections are rampant my friend."
Indeed they are.
Reports Of Vaccinated Breakthrough Cases/Hospitalizations/Deaths Are On The Rise - Sharply last month
A sampling of stories from around the country, and world.
When looking at stories, or data, keep in mind the timeframe. Is the data they are sharing/reporting regarding the entire vaccination timeline (from Jan)? Or, is it what's happening recently, in the last week or last month? The following are about the current surge.
- New Report Stuns The World: The Vast Majority Of Those Now Dying With Covid Are People Who Were VACCINATED Against It (07.02.2021)
- Covid Surges in Many Highly Vaccinated Populations At The Same Time The 15 Least Vaccinated Countries Don‘t Seem To Face Any Problem. (07.16.2021)
- 40% of people being admitted to hospital with Corinavirus have been double jabbed (UK) (07.19.2021)
- Scotland Confirms 5,522 Deaths Within 4 Weeks of ‘Vaccination’ in a Population Smaller Than Minnesota (07.19.2021)
- 6th fully vaccinated Texas Democrat lawmaker tests positive for COVID-19 (07.20.2021)
- Massachusetts reports 716 new COVID-19 breakthrough cases in vaccinated individuals (07.21.2021)
- Coronavirus in Israel: What do we know about the 143 hospitalized people? Of the 143 hospitalized patients, 58% were vaccinated, 39% were not at all, and 3% were partially vaccinated. (07.21.2021)
- 42 people quarantined amid COVID-19 outbreak at San Antonio assisted living facility, officials confirm (38 of the 42 vaccinated) (07.22.2021)
- ‘Vast majority’ of Covid-19 cluster in Cape Cod were vaccinated (07.22.2021)
- ANOTHER fully-vaccinated congressional aide tests positive for COVID: 'Unease' sweeps the Capitol as breakthrough infections rise, lines for testing grow and more staffers mask up (07.23.2021)
- Sen. Ron Johnson: Data From Israel Shows 84% Of New COVID Cases Are Vaccinated Individuals (07.22.2021)
- Defense Department has had about 2,000 breakthrough Covid cases (07.23.2021)
- Psaki refuses to answer question on WH ‘breakthrough’ Covid cases… (‘Why do you need that information?’) (07.23.2021)
- 27 deaths among 1,000+ ‘breakthrough’ cases COVID-19 cases reported in Tennessee - 195 hospitalizations (07.24.2021)
- ADHS: COVID-19 cases among vaccinated in Arizona now at 11% - was 5% last month - 4,403 breakthrough cases, 34 deaths (07.24.2021)
- Hoboken COVID Cases Show 'Uptick' Including Among Vaccinated - July cases: 32 vax'd, 26 unvax'd (07.24.2021)
- Island Continues to See Breakthrough Covid Cases - Martha's Vineyard - 10 new cases - 6 fully vax'd adults, 4 kids under 10 y.o. no vax (07.26.2021)
- Higher COVID Rate Found In Some Counties With Higher Vaccination Rate – Why, And What It Says About The Delta Variant(07.26.2021)
- New Evidence Suggests COVID Vaccine May *SPREAD* the Virus: NBC News Report Deleted from USA Today Article(See below article)(07.27.2021)
- [Vax'd not just contracting Covid-19 but could potentially infect others - Vax'd who become infected have just as much viral load as the UnVax'd](07.27.2021)
- CDC needs to start tracking all Covid breakthrough infections, Gottlieb says(07.28.2021)
- Despite low vaccination rate, health official says Hardin County sees few COVID cases (OH)(07.28.2021)
- Breakthrough COVID-19 cases rising in Jefferson County: What vaccinated people need to know - Louisville breakthrough cases - 312 in just last month, ~15% of hospitalizations (07.28.2021)
- Breakthrough cases: Over 25% of new COVID-19 cases in Los Angeles County are fully vaccinated people - Up from 20% in June (07.28.2021)
- 160 Dead, 650 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases (07.29.2021)
- Sunriver Family Reunion Leads To Breakthrough COVID Cases, Hospitalizations (OR) - 62% of the covid infections from the reunion of 28 were vax'd, some of those hospitalized. (Aug 2 2021)
- Breakthrough COVID Cases Among Those Fully Vaccinated Are Rising In Colorado - 20% new cases in first 3 weeks in July were vax'd. (08.02.2021)
- Ocean County got about 100 COVID-19 ‘breakthrough’ infections in the past week (NJ) - 3X more in last week, than previous ~28 weeks combined.(08.02.2021)
- SF General and UCSF Staff COVID-19 Infections Raise Concern About Rate of Breakthrough Cases - About 80% new cases in July were vax'd (08.01.2021)
- Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data - It is bad and getting worse. - Older vax'd - 12 fold increase in "serios illness" in last month(08.03.2021)
- New study shows updated numbers for breakthrough cases in Lexington (KY) - Nearly 30% new cases last month were vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Massachusetts breakthrough coronavirus cases jump 1,364 in one week, state’s daily infection tally up 883 amid delta spike - About 1/3 of new cases in last few weeks are vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Despite breakthrough cases and deaths, Utah doctors continue to push vaccination - 3 out of 5 (60%) covid deaths over the weekend were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Roanoke-area rise in COVID-19 is accompanied by increase in breakthrough cases (VA) - Of the past week’s increase of 371 new cases, and 31 hospitalized, 19% of those two groups are vax'd - Up from 1-3% in previous weeks (08.03.2021)
- Almost 1 in 5 new virus cases in Fredericksburg district are among vaccinated (08.03.2021)
- With 165 cases, Dare County reports 5th highest week of new COVID-19 cases since pandemic began (NC) - 22% were vax'd. The same week last year had a total of 43 positive cases. (08.03.2021)
- S. Korea reports more than 1,100 breakthrough infections, 8 patients in critical condition - The tally is sharply up from 779 a week earlier - A 41% increase from previous week. (08.03.2021)
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posted on
08/05/2021 12:35:18 PM PDT
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: Jane Long
Jane Jane Jane, the proof of pudding is in tasting it.
Just wait until I post my pics from the cruise in mid-September. Enough already of guesses, wishes, conjectures and curses.
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posted on
08/05/2021 1:23:59 PM PDT
by
entropy12
(President Trump was the force behind warp speed availability of vaccines for Americans. )
To: entropy12
I think you should post that to these doubters!
That’s why I pinged you :)
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posted on
08/05/2021 1:42:09 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
To: rxsid
Pandemic of the “Vax”d, it appears.
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posted on
08/05/2021 1:43:13 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
To: Red Badger
Everyone on the cruise was vaccinated!
Carnival Vista returns tomorrow (Friday) to the Port of Galveston.
If Delta truly is R1.4, and "several positive cases" were detected at the halfway point at Cozumel, then the number of Delta infected by now is approaching at least 2 dozen.
And then Bobo's Silverback Birthday bash featuring 700+ worthless celebs in Nantucket is the very next day!
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posted on
08/05/2021 1:45:12 PM PDT
by
StAnDeliver
(Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
To: butlerweave
"Don’t worry they’ll find an unvaccinated Rat to blame it on"No I think the new thing will be corporatism will try to shift their #Narrative to 'undervaccinated' ... watch Carnival blame it on some of the galley workers and chambermaids who likely got Sinovax.
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posted on
08/05/2021 1:47:49 PM PDT
by
StAnDeliver
(Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson)
To: coop71
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posted on
08/05/2021 2:02:36 PM PDT
by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Funny you mention that…I’m still waiting to hear your reply to my requests.
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posted on
08/05/2021 2:07:21 PM PDT
by
coop71
To: StAnDeliver
And then Bobo's Silverback Birthday bash featuring 700+ worthless celebs in Nantucket is the very next day!Barack Bash 2021 was canceled
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