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7/21/2021: Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing
The CDC ^ | 7/21/2021 | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Posted on 07/26/2021 9:54:58 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck

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To: xkaydet65
"Nonsense. No one I have ever known has died from influenza. Over 65 years that includes a lot of people so don’t try it’s the flu bro with me. And you are the mark here, not me.

Are you a troll or an idiot? It has to be one or the other.

Influenza is the flu virus and the flu kills tens of thousands of America every year year after year. In the 2017-2018 flu season online the flu killed 61,000 Americans, see below:
source: https://www.statista.com/chart/23129/estimated-number-of-deaths-due-to-influenza-in-the-us/

61 posted on 07/26/2021 2:34:24 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Heck we Freepers knew that right from the start. We also knew that running the Test through 40 cycles was guaranteed to give a lot of false positives.

Notice that they now want the Vaccinated with serious breakthrough infections (in hospital) to only be run @ 28 cycles - those will be further analyzed. Can't have those inflated numbers for the fully JABBED-someone might think the JAB didn't work very well???

62 posted on 07/26/2021 2:36:47 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Owen

Now, and all along, the correct measurement is Excess Deaths.

20-25% more 65+ year olds died last year of all causes than in a typical year. About 20% of those were the official Covid count, which undoubtedly had some rare errors in it. In fact, since the number is 25% excess deaths, there was likely undercounting of Covid deaths.

And no, don’t stand up and wave your hands about flu deaths disappearing. They would be in the typical year numbers. We still were 25% higher last year.
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With a false positive Covid test, seniors were denied all medications and died from illnesses they would normally survive.

Governors who wanted to up the body count forced those visibly ill with respiratory diseases, technically classified as Covid but with an inaccurate test, into nursing homes. That worked - killed many.

Seniors despaired of life after a year in isolation and lost the will to live.

Medical services were restrained and many elderly were afraid to get anywhere near a hospital, even with chest pains, for false fears of Covid.

Isolation from most contact depressed immune system function - interaction helps tune up immune response and isolation turns it down low.

Strangely, I heard in person, and read online, accounts of nursing home staff saying that their facilities didn’t have ‘Covid’ until mandated testing. Within weeks of testing, many cases of Covid.

They wanted a body count, and sadly, seniors were easy targets.

The flu deaths issue is important. Those people would ordinarily receive treatment for the flu. Get a false positve for Covid and now you’re denied treatment, and most importantly, denied early treatment. They send patients home to return for ventilation - the most intentionally malevolent course of action conceivable.

Covid or whatever respiratory illnesses were cropping up requires early treatment for best results. Sending people home to get them nice ‘n sick before ventilating is cruel and inhumane, intentionally cultivating advanced illness.

THe top tier medications for treating Covid are banned, poor substitutes with little efficacy are used late, once hospitalized.

Key Monoclonal antibody treatments were largely withdrawn in June, and even if you can find a physician willing to prescribe those which remain, you are required to have co-morbidities in order to be eligible. In all ways possible, the CDC has labored to kill Americans.


63 posted on 07/26/2021 2:45:03 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: luvie

Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing

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Here is the quote linking the COVID tests with the text you were confused about:

"After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in February 2020 for detection of SARS-CoV-2 only. CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives."

64 posted on 07/26/2021 2:51:07 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: Renfrew
Sorry, this means the opposite of what you think it does. The previous tests were for Covid only. If you had the flu they wouldn’t tell you anything.

There are new tests that simultaneously test for both the flu and Covid. Those are better as in one test it can tell you what you have.
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The PCR does not identify the Covid virus or the Covid illness. The test, however, gives a 97% false positive rate and is meaningless at the cycle rate at which it is run. It tests inanimate objects as 'positive' for Covid.

If the CDC was not weaponized, it would have, for example, not misidentified people with illnesses other than Covid and then denied them all treatment until placing them on ventilators.

If not conducting biowarfare, the CDC would not just administer an invalid Covid-19 test with a 97% false positive rate FIRST, during flu season, given the symptoms overlap so well with influenza, given it was influenza season when started, and given 38 million cases of influenza were in the process of going missing.

The only reason to only test for Covid during flu season is spelled 'plandemic' and the alternative spelling is 'biowarfare'.

 

 

 

Excerpt:

In mid-November, none other than he who should not be questioned - Dr. Anthony Fauci - admitted that the PCR Test's high Ct is misleading:

“What is now sort of evolving into a bit of a standard,” Fauci said, is that “if you get a cycle threshold of 35 or more … the chances of it being replication-confident are minuscule.”

“It’s very frustrating for the patients as well as for the physicians,” he continued, when “somebody comes in, and they repeat their PCR, and it’s like [a] 37 cycle threshold, but you almost never can culture virus from a 37 threshold cycle.”

So, I think if somebody does come in with 37, 38, even 36, you got to say, you know, it’s just dead nucleotides, period.”

Why Is The CDC Quietly Abandoning The PCR Test For COVID? Who Benefits? Is another provider of testing about to be enrichened?
Nation and State ^ | 07/25/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 7/25/2021, 9:10:52 PM by SeekAndFind

65 posted on 07/26/2021 2:56:30 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I remember reading last year about a doctor who started treating her patients as if they were bacterial pneumonia cases and had tremendous success.


66 posted on 07/26/2021 3:08:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: little jeremiah
A few or three months ago, the CDC quietly announced that only 6% of covid deaths were actually from covid, and that only 5% of covid cases were actually covid

Do you have a link to that? I would appreciate it.

67 posted on 07/26/2021 4:08:06 PM PDT by lupie
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To: wildcard_redneck

You passed math ? Tens of thousands is a far cry from hundreds of thousands. Did you get that? Hundreds of thousands !! Don’t insult rednecks by becoming the Left’s stereotype of one. You do a lot of harm that way.


69 posted on 07/26/2021 4:45:14 PM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: lupie

I’ll see if I saved it, and if so, can I find it!


70 posted on 07/26/2021 5:31:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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To: xkaydet65
"You passed math ? Tens of thousands is a far cry from hundreds of thousands. Did you get that? Hundreds of thousands !! Don't insult rednecks by becoming the Left's stereotype of one. You do a lot of harm that way."

COVID warrior strikes! You attack my math as if I said that every false positive COVID death for the flu accounted for every COVID case which I did not. You don't acknowledge where the missing tens of thousands of flu cases might have went in light of the CDC's own admission of the influenza virus (the goddamn flu) is causing false positive COVID cases with the CDC's craptastic "emergency test".

From the hysteria of your comment I suspect that your are either over 75, very sick, or both. I recommend that you self quarantine and leave the rest of us alone.

It is either your are sick and old or you are a leftist COVIDIOT troll and you can FOAD. ;)

71 posted on 07/26/2021 5:44:26 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: lupie

Article copied is the Life Site News. I know I had something specific from the CDC but don’t know if I can find. There may be links in the Life Site article.

DID A QUIETLY-MADE CHANGE IN TESTING CAUSE COVID INFECTIONS TO DROP 45%?

https://sofrep.com/news/did-a-quietly-made-change-in-testing-cause-covid-infections-to-drop-45/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/one-hour-after-biden-inaugurated-who-changes-covid-testing-criteria?
utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

One hour after Biden inaugurated, WHO changes COVID testing criteria
The change is expected to lead to a reduction in COVID case tallies.

January 22, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In what some have suggested is politicized timing, the World Health Organization on Wednesday changed the protocol for COVID-19 tests, which will result in large reductions in the numbers of positive cases. The body took this action just one hour after Joe Biden was sworn in as president of the United States.

On Wednesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) issued guidance regarding the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test, which is being widely used across the globe in order to detect cases of COVID-19. In a short information notice, the WHO referred back to an instruction booklet for COVID testing, released in September 2020, noting that “careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed.”

The guidance warned against diagnosing someone as having the virus just because he tests positive if he does not present with symptoms of COVID-19. It also warned about the high risk of false positives: “The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.”

“As disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases. The probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity,” the WHO continued.

An even more surprising admission followed: the document described PCR tests merely as an “aid for diagnosis” and did not place any greater weight upon the results of PCR tests. “Most PCR assays are indicated as an aid for diagnosis, therefore, health care providers must consider any result in combination with timing of sampling, specimen type, assay specifics, clinical observations, patient history, confirmed status of any contacts, and epidemiological information.”

The new guidance for assessing the results of PCR COVID tests effectively means that there are additional steps to be taken before reporting that someone has tested positive for the virus. The WHO notes that “a new specimen should be taken and retested” and further stipulates that “health care” workers should weigh up the test result alongside real-world information, such as symptoms or “clinical observations,” and contact with any other infected individuals.

One user on Twitter explained the WHO guidance thus: “PCR positive is no longer = Covid. You are not Covid now unless you get a second test to confirm it, and are presenting clinical symptoms.”

[More at the Life Site link]

I’ll see what else I can find, digging into some usbs.

Okay:

Testing is the problem, it drives the whole narrative. The links explain it well. Even if you accept that there is a COVID19 virus, 97% of the tests are unreliable. The CDC tells us that they have never been in possession of a COVID19 virus.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9tM1iwuOk&feature=youtu.be

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/12/01/the-sars-cov-2-virus-was-never-proved-to-exist/

I’m a Clinical Lab Scientist, COVID-19 is Fake, Wake Up, America

https://web.archive.org/web/20210214214843/https://www.globalresearch.ca/clinical-lab-scientist-covid-19-fake-wake-up-america/5737013

New Study Highlights Alleged Accounting Error Regarding Covid Deaths
Ethan Yang
– November 26, 2020

https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/

[Editor’s note: the article and video discussed below have been pulled by Johns Hopkins Newsletter. You can read the announcement here. An additional explanation is here. The claims made by the economics professor will clearly require more investigation, as the announcement says. That said, AIER is publishing this in the interest of objective science and open discussion.]

Lupie- click the above link and there are embedded links in the aritcle.


72 posted on 07/26/2021 5:48:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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To: immadashell

Fauxi and many others should be charged with crimes against humanity.


73 posted on 07/26/2021 5:51:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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To: xkaydet65
"I was told how they died. All with sudden, within a week, severe fever and pulmonary distress and failure."

I am sorry that they passed but I'm sorry to say some of them could've died from the flu with those symptoms.

Face it, our government has created perverse incentives for hospitals, doctors, pharmacies, the whole medical profession to lie about false Covid cases to get more funding. The PCR COVID-19 tests with the high cycle were know to be useless crap. Big Corp enjoyed crushing 400,000 small businesses in this country for fun and profit using COVID-19.

Again, sorry for your loss, but that doesn't mean that we have to accept your hypochondriac, fear-mongering rants because you claim friends that all died of COVID. Who knows, I could be wrong, maybe they all got together in a group orgy passing COVID around when you were not invited.

74 posted on 07/26/2021 6:03:41 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks! I will check it out tomorrow!


75 posted on 07/26/2021 7:05:15 PM PDT by lupie
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To: wildcard_redneck

You know in my world your tone would identify you as nothing more than a snot nose punk. And it is guys like you who make it easy for the Left to ignore and insult the Right. But you are to be congratulated for guessing I am over 70. But I have not worn a mask since last May, except where I could not enter without one and I’ve thrown a few beatings in my day and my day is still here.


76 posted on 07/26/2021 7:34:58 PM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: xkaydet65
"You know in my world your tone would identify you as nothing more than a snot nose punk. And it is guys like you who make it easy for the Left to ignore and insult the Right. But you are to be congratulated for guessing I am over 70. But I have not worn a mask since last May, except where I could not enter without one and I’ve thrown a few beatings in my day and my day is still here."

What a virtue signaling display you put on. Are you trying to tell us that the leftists have better manners than we do? Because they do not. They are attacking Americans and stealing our country and all you can do is attack us as well and carry water for them.

You should stop acting like such a sanctimonious twat and learn how to fight.

77 posted on 07/26/2021 7:58:10 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: Owen
Now, and all along, the correct measurement is Excess Deaths.

Thank you for pointing that out. Do you have a good link for the Excess Death numbers?

78 posted on 07/26/2021 8:53:39 PM PDT by foxfield (When the going gets tough, the tough get going!)
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To: foxfield

It is a CDC page, googleable.


79 posted on 07/27/2021 12:39:56 AM PDT by Owen
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To: wildcard_redneck

It would be interesting to know whether tests for flu and strep have been done along with those covid tests.

Back before covid tests were widely available, the Drs would test for flu and strep (I know, I was one who had covid symptoms back in March 2020, and was tested for flu & strep, no covid tests were available).


80 posted on 07/27/2021 1:37:26 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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