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To: Kaslin

I hate agreeing with Andrew Sullivan.


18 posted on 07/21/2021 4:47:14 AM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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To: sauropod

How true but it’s the few on that side that creates their implosion.

We can only stand up and fight until it occurs.


19 posted on 07/21/2021 4:55:08 AM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: sauropod
I hate agreeing with Andrew Sullivan.

I do as well, but except for a few differences in terminology I find myself dragged toward that. For example:

What is it? It is, I’d argue, the sudden, rapid, stunning shift in the belief system of the American elites. It has sent the whole society into a profound cultural dislocation. It is, in essence, an ongoing moral panic against the specter of “white supremacy,” which is now bizarrely regarded as an accurate description of the largest, freest, most successful multiracial democracy in human history.

The progressives Sullivan fondly recalls weren't culture-destroying Marxists, they simply felt that a little nudge in that direction wouldn't be a bad thing for the equilibrium of the country. The radicals decided that if a little was good, a lot would be better. Sullivan's point is that the progressives he fondly recalls really don't exist anymore. I would replace "progressive" with "liberal" but that's really quibbling at this point.

The real shift has been, IMHO, more that of elites and corporations toward fascism, and the increased willingness of the government to take advantage of that merry illusion. It is, in toto a swing from freedom toward authoritarianism no matter which flavor. Those freedoms that once were considered unshakeable bedrocks of American government are now less debated than simply disregarded, and the result is out of control, anyone's. The Marxists haven't realized that yet but they never do.

36 posted on 07/21/2021 1:51:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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