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Drug driving cases soar in Canada
Western Standard ^ | 7/16/2021 | Dave Naylor

Posted on 07/16/2021 6:57:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

Analysts said 6,453 police-reported incidents of drug-impaired driving in 2019, the first full year of legalization, “a 43% increase over 2018.”

Unlike drinking and driving charges that peak in twilight hours, “the rate of drug-impaired driving varies little from one time of day to another,” said the report.

“Police reported just as many of these incidents between 11 a.m. and 3 p.m., as between 11 p.m. and 3 a.m,.” wrote analysts.

Cases also took twice as long to wind through the courts as alcohol-related charges.

(Excerpt) Read more at westernstandardonline.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; wod
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1 posted on 07/16/2021 6:57:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

How long have they had the legal and law enforcement resources to enforce and track drugged driving? I daresay not very long. Cops obviously get better at spotting and stopping drugged driving with practice. Based on that this might be statistical artifact and not a genuine rise.

CC


2 posted on 07/16/2021 7:02:42 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I learned that lesson as a teenager.

I smoked pot and drove exactly once, and what a drive it was.

It seemed like everything was moving—up and down, left and right, everything seemed to happening very fast and then very slow—scared the s^%$ out of me...

It definitely impairs driving...


3 posted on 07/16/2021 7:03:48 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
"2019 wss the first full year they have been tracking drugged driving...."

If the previous year was partial, of course it's gonna rise in a FULL year! Dumb title, dumb journalist.

CC

4 posted on 07/16/2021 7:07:06 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
"Cops getting better at spotting and stopping..."

Not hard to spot someone driving in the Cheech & Chong mode.

5 posted on 07/16/2021 7:08:57 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Some other types of DUI are hauling ass at night while wearing sunglasses.


6 posted on 07/16/2021 7:11:25 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
"the first full year of legalization"
7 posted on 07/16/2021 7:12:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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8 posted on 07/16/2021 7:27:17 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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9 posted on 07/16/2021 7:30:05 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

If drunk driving is not sufficient reason to make alcohol illegal, high driving is not sufficient reason to keep marijuana illegal.


10 posted on 07/16/2021 7:30:39 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Deaf Smith
"Not hard to spot someone driving in the Cheech & Chong mode."

That usually only happens to people new to it.

11 posted on 07/16/2021 7:46:40 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: NobleFree

One notable difference is that it’s easy to test alcohol levels. Right now it’s not possible to measure marijuana impairment using any kind of blood or breath screening.


12 posted on 07/16/2021 8:08:11 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I question whether that difference invalidates my point; a roadside test (walk a line, etc.) can still get an incapacitated driver off the road for several hours.


13 posted on 07/16/2021 8:33:00 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Alberta's Child

Let’s further note that alcohol testing hasn’t eliminated drunk driving, and that stoned driving happened even before legalization.


14 posted on 07/16/2021 8:36:33 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

and lets further note that a good many “drunk” driving accidents also included drugs in the system, but never tested for....


15 posted on 07/16/2021 8:53:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NobleFree; Alberta's Child
The driving issue has not really been a compelling reason in my view (I just posted the article as an interesting glimpse into the degenerate round-the-clock drug use of potheads) but now that I read Alberta's Child's point maybe there is something there. Alberta's Child pointed out the difficulty in measuring impairment by objective testing, while you replied a roadside test such as walking a line "can still get an incapacitated driver off the road for several hours."

Your point reminded me about some interesting differences between alcohol impairment and marijuana impairment. Someone marijuana impaired can seem fine in terms of walking a line. However, at the same time they are still likely to be suffering from reduced depth perception, susceptibility to flashes and other visual acuity issues that likely would require ophthalmologist tests.

Furthermore, marijuana users' susceptibility to false memories (scary!) make them prone to risk of "remembering" there was nothing in the blind spot they checked, or that a traffic light they glanced at was green rather than red. Such false memories are generated randomly and would require an extended dialogue with police to realize they were occurring. (People under alcohol's effects only have memory issues if they black out.)

16 posted on 07/16/2021 9:14:49 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

“differences between alcohol impairment and marijuana impairment”

You’ve provided half the support for your claim of difference, by posting evidence of certain effects of marijuana; the remaining half is posting reason to believe these effects are absent with alcohol (e.g. research that looked for them and failed to observe them).


17 posted on 07/17/2021 7:12:40 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: cherry

‘a good many “drunk” driving accidents also included drugs in the system, but never tested for....’

Since they were never tested for, all we can say is that the number of such cases cannot be proven to be zero; there is no basis for your claim “a good many”.


18 posted on 07/17/2021 7:14:48 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
I'm glad you asked.

Alcohol doesn't create psycho false memories like pot does:

In laboratory eyewitness memory studies, alcohol intoxication has been found to reduce the quantity but not the accuracy of memory reports

With regards to depth perception, the difference is that with alcohol, your depth perception will be diminished along with motor functions , which means by walk-the-line test as well as objective blood alcohol test. This is unlike marijuana, where your perception can be altered even without any motor function issue, and without of course any objective test to show intoxication.

19 posted on 07/17/2021 10:10:39 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: gundog
Cheech & Chong = Bert + Ernie.

bt

20 posted on 07/17/2021 10:12:36 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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