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Court Declares Laws Banning Handgun Sales To People Under 21 Unconstitutional
Daily Caller ^ | 13 July 2021 | Ailan Evans

Posted on 07/13/2021 7:11:52 PM PDT by CodeToad

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To: Impala64ssa

My FIL went to military school as a teenager, and at 17 was sent to fight in Italy. He rarely talked about the atrocities he witnessed, even when asked directly. In fact, he would be downright uncomfortable and give as few details as possible. My sons asked him once when they were in middle school and studying WWII. He was unwilling to say very much at all, and left the room very upset. He earned several medals that my husband now has framed. Rest In Peace, Pops. Miss you.


21 posted on 07/14/2021 5:20:21 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: RetiredArmy

In 1972 at age 18, I did Army boot camp at Fort Ord, CA. We could buy beer in the enlisted clubs on base. We were told it was “3.2” beer.


22 posted on 07/14/2021 5:23:19 AM PDT by OCMike
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To: RetiredArmy

Here in Idaho, you can possess the fireworks legally, you just can’t use them.


23 posted on 07/14/2021 5:49:10 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: CodeToad

Stop the pigeon! Stop the pigeon!


24 posted on 07/14/2021 6:09:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (不要相信中国。中国是个混蛋 "don't trust China. China is azzhoe" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicC53AhZ6Y)
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To: Disambiguator

But you still cannot legally carry a handgun if you are under 21. The Tennessee Firearms Association is working on that.


25 posted on 07/14/2021 6:15:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,)
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Didn’t the ban originate from GCA 1968?


26 posted on 07/14/2021 6:30:19 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: ScubaDiver

It is state laws in general that limit booze sales.

The fedgov just won’t give you highway money unless you do it.

However, Trumps action on cigarettes was unconstitutional,


27 posted on 07/14/2021 6:47:54 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: RetiredArmy
I could not buy a beer in any of the enlisted men’s club on Fort Jackson, S.C., nor could I purchase beer off base at a bar or store.

Hmm, in 1969 while 18 years old, and while I was attending AIT at Fort Gordon, GA as an E-2 we could get served beer, not hard liquor, in the EM club, just not off base in Augusta.

We did sometimes drive the 20 miles to Aiken, SC where the drinking age was still 18.

28 posted on 07/14/2021 7:49:31 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: CodeToad
Here is a Direct link to the decision iteself. Lots of good information in there.
29 posted on 07/14/2021 9:12:33 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

Thanks for that. I usually prefer to read the decisions.


30 posted on 07/14/2021 9:16:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

I’ve had issue with this forever. If we put an 19 year old in the back of a APC or a Humvee with a machine gun and ask them to go die for us, but they come back and can’t own a firearm....................no effing sense.


31 posted on 07/14/2021 9:56:24 AM PDT by Nifty
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To: Nifty

Guns, Drinking, and voting seems to be withheld from the 18-21 crowd but the draft was not. Seems either someone is 18 and an adult or not.


32 posted on 07/14/2021 10:10:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: ex91B10

Which of The Bill of Rights enumerates drinking beer?


33 posted on 07/14/2021 10:57:28 AM PDT by HKMk23 ('Tis plain that People lose their Christianity with their Liberties. -- Thomas Bradbury, 1712)
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To: CodeToad
Many states (almost all of them Rat Party cesspools) have blatantly unconstitutional laws violating 2nd Amendment rights. My state,for example,being the one that was just recently quashed in a 9-0 SCOUTUS vote on a 2A case,has a law stating that the state's Attorney General has the authority to deem a particular weapon "unsafe" and ban it from the state.

Why can't SCOTUS,once and for all,make it clear that "shall not be infringed" applies to every city and town,every county and every state in the nation???

34 posted on 07/14/2021 5:21:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: PROCON

Even at Fort Benning, GA you could not purchase booze at an EM club. They even have Georgia Alcohol Board members checking the clubs. When you enter the club, they stamped your wrist so that the waitress could see your ID card had been checked and you were 21 or over!! At Jackson, maybe the county had a law, I don’t know, but we could not get booze. I am from Alabama and you could not buy booze under age 21 here either back then. We always went to a guy that was a local bootlegger, who went to what in Alabama is called the ABC Store (Alabama Beverage Control Store). You had always pay him more for a couple of cans. I remember one of my buddies was always driving over to his house and getting beer. Everyone knew he was the guy to go too. He had two or three iceboxes full of beer to sell to mostly teens or some local drunks!!


35 posted on 07/14/2021 10:47:13 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: OCMike

Yup. I remember that 3 point one or two beer. That sold that crap in Nam also. Guys said you had to drink 10 cans of it to get a buzz on.


36 posted on 07/14/2021 10:49:29 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: JaguarXKE

HUGH, even


37 posted on 07/15/2021 1:28:04 AM PDT by cartan
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To: ProgressingAmerica
States have the authority to set an age, that’s how their constitutions are set up. The Federal Government has no purview here. Shall not be infringed is absolute.

If "shall not be infringed" is absolute, then why are you arguing that States have the authority to infringe upon it?
38 posted on 07/15/2021 9:38:47 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar
That's how our country was built. This is right from the Constitutional Convention itself:
Mr. SHERMAN, was for securing the rights of the people where requisite. The State Declarations of Rights are not repealed by this Constitution; and being in force are sufficient.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_912.asp

See also the 10th amendment. This is a jurisdictional issue. Every state, thankfully, has its own Bill of Rights.

We do not have "one big nation", the Founders repeatedly warned against that sort of dangerous scenario. - commonly, when referring to Montesquieu who was one of the important intellects behind the idea that big republics are big failures. We do not want "one big nation", we want the states to have powers and rights to use against the federal government. We want our localities empowered.

Let's take for example Texas, their constitution states:

THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION

ARTICLE 1. BILL OF RIGHTS

Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.

This would, reasonably, allow for passing laws to (legally) disallow pre-teens from owning or purchasing firearms.

Iowa is perhaps even more interesting, as they are currently working to advance a "second amendment" for the Iowa State Constitution where they currently do not have one. They need one.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/19/iowa-house-republicans-advance-pro-gun-constitutional-amendment/4208159001/

The states are generally more conservative than Washington D.C., so I will always side with the states having this kind of power over granting it to the Federal government.

39 posted on 07/15/2021 3:07:20 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: RetiredArmy

I’m a native of South Carolina. When I was eighteen I could buy beer but not hard liquor and I could NOT vote. Now an eighteen year old can vote but CANNOT buy beer.


40 posted on 07/15/2021 4:44:15 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I'm all out of sarc tags.)
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