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To: mrsmith

Heavily vaxxed Israel.

LOL! at this bizarrely off-point response
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OK now I understand what you were saying.

But really, are they the posterchild for total vaccination with surging cases?

Forgive me, but with what seems to be a mess going on in Israel with surging numbers, set to reach 1,000/day in 10 days, since you did not specify, I didn’t know you were referring to their stats as “vaccine is looking pretty good.” There were no links to charts of the death rates for Israel that I saw, and I like links.

Anyway, I find it very disturbing that 14 out of 35 serious cases are from people who received 2 shots...a couple more patients admitted, and the stat goes above 50%. And as I stated in another post, I would like to see the demographics on the “serious cases” patients—ages, co-morbidities, etc. as well as how many of the vented are people who received 2 shots.

That said, again I ask, is Israel now the posterchild for vaccinations? This article states cases are surging... If the vaccines are effective against the Indian strain, then what is the cause of the surge?? Israel is already at close to 60% adults fully jabbed...with teens lining up as well. So why the surge?? What is the cause?

Articles being put online today in the US are stating that PFE, MRNA, and J&J are protecting against the Indian variant (tho there are lots of “wiggle” words in these articles), so why the surge in Israel now??

I will be watching Israel’s stats...Both serious and non-serious cases. I wonder since non-serious cases are surging, will number of serious cases remain at 35? Please feel free to ping me on any relevant information that you find. Israel may be the canary in the coal mine...at least for me.

Why do I care? I have children and 4 grandkids (so far). If I am convinced that a vaccine is SAFE and EFFECTIVE, I will drive them all to the doctor myself and then take them to their favorite restaurant for dinner of their choice... However, at this time, I have yet to be convinced that any of the vaccines fit the bill.

Again, sorry I misunderstood what you were saying.

Happy Independence Day.


53 posted on 07/04/2021 10:05:13 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: Freedom56v2

It was only about a month ago that I became convinced the vaccines were great.
Took a year of date showing it.
My initial response was not to trust it.


56 posted on 07/04/2021 10:19:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Freedom56v2

I assume you missed the press conference of what happen to that teen who got the shot. Or the 18 yr old who got a heart attack from it. There is 0 reason to give kids this shot.


57 posted on 07/04/2021 10:24:17 PM PDT by roving
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To: Freedom56v2

“Israel may be the canary in the coal mine...at least for me.

Why do I care? I have children and 4 grandkids (so far). If I am convinced that a vaccine is SAFE and EFFECTIVE, I will drive them all to the doctor myself and then take them to their favorite restaurant for dinner of their choice...
Happy Independence Day. “

And to you!

Some things are simple. some aren’t.


65 posted on 07/05/2021 1:43:19 AM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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