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San Jose will make all gun owners in city pay for costs of gun violence
SF Gate ^ | June 30, 2021 | by Eric Ting

Posted on 06/30/2021 12:42:59 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

In the wake of the VTA rail yard mass shooting in May, the San Jose City Council unanimously passed two first-in-the-nation gun control measures that are already creating controversy.

One measure requires all gun owners to obtain liability insurance for their firearms, and a second measure requires all gun owners in the city to pay an annual tax that would go towards emergency services responding to gun-related calls. San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said the measure is an attempt to compensate taxpayers for the costs of gun violence.

“While the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms, it does not require taxpayers to subsidize gun ownership," the mayor said in a statement.

Licccardo estimated that the liability insurance fee would be between $25 and $30, and compared it to car insurance. The mandatory gun ownership tax amount has not been determined, but Liccardo's office estimates that gun violence costs the city's taxpayers $442 million annually.

Gun owner groups in the state are furious and plan to take legal action.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; guns; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 06/30/2021 12:42:59 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not sure if it was reported in the media, but the VTA shooter only shot men - he wouldn’t shoot women.


2 posted on 06/30/2021 12:44:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Does that include the City of San Jose? The gov’t owns a bunch of guns.


3 posted on 06/30/2021 12:45:22 PM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Taxation without representation is tyranny.” -James Otis (1761))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe they should consider using existing law against those who do crime with guns... not make new law to punish those who are law abiding.


4 posted on 06/30/2021 12:45:29 PM PDT by Principled (Biden is illegitimate and whatever he says can be ignored. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
San Jose will make all (LEGAL)gun owners in city pay for costs of gun violence

Fixed it …

5 posted on 06/30/2021 12:45:43 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Et Tu NSA ?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The mandatory gun ownership tax

2nd Amendment tax is illegal just as a pole tax is illegal. You can’t tax rights.


6 posted on 06/30/2021 12:47:14 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not constitutional but we are no longer a constitutional republic.


7 posted on 06/30/2021 12:47:16 PM PDT by Irenic ( )
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To: Flick Lives

pole -> poll


8 posted on 06/30/2021 12:48:03 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: Irenic

And how are they going to make the gun owning criminals pay WHEN they are there’s causing the gun violence I WANT TO SCREAM!!!{


9 posted on 06/30/2021 12:49:00 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Shall not be infringed

Total waste of bandwidth

10 posted on 06/30/2021 12:52:08 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

City official: “I am here to collect the gun tax.”
Me: “Who says I have any guns? See, there was this boating accident...”

I will not complete that statement. Instead I will just slam the door shut.

And I don’t think I’d have to do that for very long. This scheme is no different than the old, unconstitutional poll tax.


11 posted on 06/30/2021 12:53:06 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am thinking this would qualify as a bill of attainder.


12 posted on 06/30/2021 12:53:59 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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the original plan floated by the state was a $10k tax per bullet. that did not fly


13 posted on 06/30/2021 12:55:08 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The mayor is a dope. My USCCA policy costs $35 a month.

I’d like to see how he arrived at 452 million a year as the cost of gun violence. Seems like a huge exaggeration.

I think these taxes infringe on the right to bear arms and are unconstitutional.


14 posted on 06/30/2021 12:55:32 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“While the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms, it does not require taxpayers to subsidize gun ownership,” the mayor said in a statement.

This bastid probably believes in the “right” to tax payer subsidized abortions.....


15 posted on 06/30/2021 12:55:44 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No different from a poll tax


16 posted on 06/30/2021 12:56:32 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

City Council obviously never hear of McCulloch v. Maryland:

“The power to tax is the power to destroy….”

The San Jose city council does not have the power to destroy the second amendment. Therefore, they do not have the power to tax those items related to the second amendment.

To argue otherwise would give the council the power to tax speech, or press, or religion.


17 posted on 06/30/2021 12:58:01 PM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: PROCON

for the rkba ping list

I’m writing this from downtown San Jose. Yet another reason not to end up on a list of gun owners. I also don’t carry a permit to exercise my First Amendment rights as well.


18 posted on 06/30/2021 12:58:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Time to bring that ‘vote’ before U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez and end this nonsense before it gets out of hand.


19 posted on 06/30/2021 1:01:43 PM PDT by Wizdum (Tyranny always ends badly for the tyrannical. Ask Ceaușescu, Gaddafi or Saddam.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>>One measure requires all gun owners to obtain liability insurance for their firearms, and a second measure requires all gun owners in the city to pay an annual tax<<

No and no.

Unconstitutional. He is just going to waste a lot of money and time in court and will get slapped down.

Even the evil 9th cannot let something this blatant slip by.


20 posted on 06/30/2021 1:02:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The left does not want dialogue; it wants compliance.)
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