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Old Reckless Crime Shouldn’t Lengthen Gun Sentence, High Court Rules (Gorsuch, Thomas join Kagan)
Courthouse News Service ^ | 06/10/2021 | Jack Rodgers

Posted on 06/10/2021 8:29:52 AM PDT by ScubaDiver

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To: Labyrinthos

Bfl


21 posted on 06/10/2021 12:28:48 PM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I think that has actually come up before, been litigated. I don’t know how it was resolved. Presumably though, however it was resolved, it worked out for the state because here we are.


22 posted on 06/10/2021 1:18:28 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Wuli

Sometimes there is more than one option that will work, and switching between them has more costs than either of the options. For that, precedent is reasonable. Having made a mistake should not be justification for continuing to be wrong, but some things are both workable and ‘good enough’.


23 posted on 06/10/2021 5:27:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MortMan

“But please think about a situation where anyone can argue “the law means what *I* say it means at this moment in time” would really mean for law-abiding citizens nationwide.”

And that’s pretty much the kind of nation we may well be turning into.


24 posted on 06/10/2021 5:45:24 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Wuli
...Some believe that only those rights infringed upon by the conviction of the felony itself, are the only infringements the felony conviction should carry; that extending the penalties (additional infringements) after the convicted’ sentence is carried out is not “just”...

I completely disagree. It is perfectly acceptable that conviction for a felony carries a two-part or even a three-part sentence. The first part of the sentence is a temporary loss of many of your constitutional rights (prison), the second part is a loss of a smaller, but still significant, number of rights (probation or parole) and the third part is a loss of an even smaller number of rights (firearms, voting, certain occupational certificates, registration as a sex offender, etc.).

There is nothing wrong, or unjust, with multi-part sentences, they are common throughout the US and many other countries. The only unjust part might come if additions to the losses were made after the crime were committed. But, with modern laws, the multi-part penalties are codified long before the crime.

Just where in the constitution does it say there can only be one penalty for a crime? And constitution law by examples from TV shows does not count.

25 posted on 06/10/2021 11:05:40 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

I was expressing what some folks think, not taking a pro or con position myself.

I am not in general disagreement with you, though I think many 2nd, third & X parts of sentences ought to be time or conditional limited and not permanent. I do believe that reform and the condition of “restitution paid” should be possible and not foreclosed.


26 posted on 06/11/2021 7:05:21 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
>> Read Thomas’ actual and separate opinion (unlike Gorsuch, he did not “concur” with Kagan, as had his own reasoning). (his comments begin on page 27 of the link you provided). <<

Roberts joined the liberals AGAIN! All thanks to deep stater GWB appointing him!!!! This is an outrage that the Bush crime family stuck us with this activist lib--

Oh wait... you mean it was TRUMP'S GUY, Gorsuch, who voted to the LEFT of Roberts... AGAIN?

Nothing to see here folks, now move along.

27 posted on 06/15/2021 9:54:01 PM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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