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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (16 May, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 16 May 2021 | CDC

Posted on 05/16/2021 3:36:19 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“So yes, by all means, let’s stay consistent”

So in the name of being consistent - do you have the special CDC provisional death count link for covid vaccines like the one they run for “covid” deaths?


181 posted on 05/17/2021 9:33:43 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: bagster

“Spare my your...”

No.

Your behavior warrants no favors.


182 posted on 05/17/2021 9:37:27 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: palmer

“Israel with 2 infections per 100k population vs Turkey 103, Iraq 67, Iran 116, etc. But Saudi is 17 per 100k with just 17% vaccination.”

Saudi Arabia is markedly different in social behaviors, and they inherently have a lot more distance between each other - less urban, bigger houses with more space, etc..


183 posted on 05/17/2021 9:41:41 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: bagster
Some here appear to be super zealous disciples for the new religion Covidian. Dr. Fauci is their high priest, Covidicous is their New Testament. If you dare cross them with anything not from their New Testament of Covidicous they attack with dogmatic self-righteousness.

It's amazing.
184 posted on 05/17/2021 9:44:01 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: BeauBo

Expect low numbers today, because those numbers are from vaccinations reported yesterday, a Sunday.


185 posted on 05/17/2021 9:44:55 AM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: dynoman
"Obviously that doesn’t automatically mean the vaccine did not cause the event. You act like all the events can be blown off."

Not at all. I'm neither claiming that all VAERS reports are inaccurate, nor claiming that no reports in VAERS describe an issue that was actually caused by a vaccine. If that were the case, I would say VAERS is useless and should be shut down as a waste of taxpayer money. I'm NOT saying that.

What I'm saying is just what the people who operate VAERS say: that individual reports in VAERS are subject to any number of problems and have no causal link established. That the data in VAERS has a lot of noise. That the PURPOSE of VAERS is to help identify PATTERNS which a worth investigating for possible links to unexpected side effects. THAT is the purpose of VAERS and the only proper use of any data in VAERS.

Individual reports are useless. VAERS will tell you that. In fact, they tell you many, many times on their site that the individual reports are often incomplete, inaccurate, or unrelated to any vaccine. When patterns emerged, they're investigated. When those investigations discover a link, new guidance and warnings are provided. In extreme cases, a medicine may be pulled off the market or heavily restricted.

VAERS does have a lot of value, but misusing it as a definitive anthology of vaccine problems is wrong. It's not a valid use for VAERS at all. And VAERS says so themselves.

186 posted on 05/17/2021 9:46:41 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: dynoman

I’m sure they’ll have a count up somewhere once they get any US Standard Certificate of Death documentation to say there have been any deaths caused by a COVID-19 vaccine.

To the best of my knowledge, there have been zero death certificates in the US listing a COVID-19 vaccine as the UCoD, or anywhere in Section 32 Part I.


187 posted on 05/17/2021 9:49:11 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: BeauBo; bagster

The events are not “rare”. Every serious, honest and objective person owes it to themselves to at least look at these reports. People act as if they c and supporting it has become a religious duty or something.

Covid19 vax, death,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DIED=Yes

Covid19 vax, disabled,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DISABLE=Yes

Covid19 vax, life threatening
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&L_THREAT=Yes

Covid19 vax, serious
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&SERIOUS=ON

Covid19 vax, died, Administered-by is ‘Senior Living’
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&VAX=COVID19&V_ADMINBY=SEN&DIED=Yes


188 posted on 05/17/2021 9:50:34 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

How would you find them if there were any?

The powers that be clearly had/have a vested interest in inflating the covid deaths, and blowing off any covid vaccine adverse events.

They were the same ones who blacklisted effective covid treatments that could have helped a lot of people. That was downright EVIL.

https://c19legacy.com/
https://c19early.com/
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/


189 posted on 05/17/2021 9:55:21 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Individual VAERS reports are useless”

Which ones? Can you tell me?

Covid19 vax, death,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DIED=Yes

Covid19 vax, disabled,
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&DISABLE=Yes

Covid19 vax, life threatening
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&L_THREAT=Yes

Covid19 vax, serious
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&ESORT=VAX-DATE&VAX=COVID19&SERIOUS=ON

Covid19 vax, died, Administered-by is ‘Senior Living’
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=MAN&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=20&VAX=COVID19&V_ADMINBY=SEN&DIED=Yes


190 posted on 05/17/2021 10:00:41 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Here’s a pattern. All vaccines except covid vs covid vaccines, serious. Remember the covid vaccines have been in use for six months;

Covid 19, serious, 192,954 cases
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=SER&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19&VAXTYPES=COVID-19

All vaccines except covid, serious, 79233 cases.
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=SER&EVENTS=ON&VAX[]=ADEN&VAX[]=ADEN_4_7&VAX[]=ANTH&VAX[]=CHOL&VAX[]=DF&VAX[]=6VAX-F&VAX[]=DPIPV&VAX[]=DPP&VAX[]=DT&VAX[]=DTAP&VAX[]=DTAPH&VAX[]=DTAPHEPBIP&VAX[]=DTAPIPV&VAX[]=DTAPIPVHIB&VAX[]=DTIPV&VAX[]=DTOX&VAX[]=DTP&VAX[]=DTPHEP&VAX[]=DTPHIB&VAX[]=DTPIHI&VAX[]=DTPIPV&VAX[]=DTPPHIB&VAX[]=TD&VAX[]=TDAP&VAX[]=TDAPIPV&VAX[]=CEE&VAX[]=JEV&VAX[]=JEV1&VAX[]=JEVX&VAX[]=SSEV&VAX[]=TBE&VAX[]=HPV2&VAX[]=HPV4&VAX[]=HPV9&VAX[]=HPVX&VAX[]=HBHEPB&VAX[]=HBPV&VAX[]=HIBV&VAX[]=MENHIB&VAX[]=MNQHIB&VAX[]=HEPA&VAX[]=HEPAB&VAX[]=HEPATYP&VAX[]=HEP&VAX[]=FLU(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLU3&VAX[]=FLU4&VAX[]=FLUA3&VAX[]=FLUC3&VAX[]=FLUC4&VAX[]=FLUN(H1N1)&VAX[]=FLUN3&VAX[]=FLUN4&VAX[]=FLUR3&VAX[]=FLUR4&VAX[]=FLUX&VAX[]=FLUX(H1N1)&VAX[]=H5N1&VAX[]=FLUA4&VAX[]=LYME&VAX[]=MEA&VAX[]=MER&VAX[]=MM&VAX[]=MMR&VAX[]=MMRV&VAX[]=MEN&VAX[]=MENB&VAX[]=MNC&VAX[]=MNQ&VAXTYPES[]=Adenovirus&VAXTYPES[]=Anthrax&VAXTYPES[]=Cholera&VAXTYPES[]=Dengue&VAXTYPES[]=Diphtheria&VAXTYPES[]=Encephalitis&VAXTYPES[]=HPV&VAXTYPES[]=Haemophilus&VAXTYPES[]=Hepatitis A&VAXTYPES[]=Hepatitis B&VAXTYPES[]=Influenza&VAXTYPES[]=Lyme&VAXTYPES[]=Measles&VAXTYPES[]=Meningitis&SERIOUS=ON


191 posted on 05/17/2021 10:07:40 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Here's a search limited to vaccines administered in nursing homes, why would they submit "unverified, incomplete, inaccurate" reports? Are they liars?

No. The patients died after getting the vaccine. The issue is whether the deaths are expected or not. With 100 million vaccinations we expect 15,342 deaths within 7 days. Where are the 15,000 deaths in VAERS? Reading above I am told that VAERS only processed and published 1/4 of the reports. Does that also mean only 1/4 of the deaths? Then there should be 3836 deaths recorded in VAERS. Any amounts of death exceeding that amount would be suspicious and excessive.

Same thing applies to deaths in 2020. 511,000 more than 2019. Something happened in 2020. Part of the answer is deferred healthcare, lockdowns, etc. The rest was COVID plus whatever co-morbidities the deceased had.

192 posted on 05/17/2021 10:12:52 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Here’s a pattern.

Covid deaths reported to VAERS in six months; 4,057

All vaccine deaths except covid reported to VAERS the last ten years; 1,467

Check it yourself; https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php


193 posted on 05/17/2021 10:14:10 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Which ones? Can you tell me?

[List of irrelevant VAERS db searches]

You keep spamming the forum with this but you know it means nothing unless you can show the rate of these events in a similar non-vaccinated population.

What's the point of repetedly posting useless, out of context data?

194 posted on 05/17/2021 10:17:05 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Can you answer my question? Can you point out useless reports?


195 posted on 05/17/2021 10:20:27 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

“The events are not “rare””

How many per thousand vaccinations?

Or should I say, per 100,000 vaccinations?

(272,925,411 doses administered in the USA)


196 posted on 05/17/2021 10:21:57 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: dynoman
Which ones? Can you tell me?

Yes, your first link, text below, is useless. No date given for vax or death. No way to followup. Into the trash can it goes.

died; This is a spontaneous report from a non-contactable consumer via a Pfizer-sponsored program. A patient of unspecified age and gender received bnt162b2 (PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE, via an unspecified route of administration on an unspecified date at single dose for covid-19 immunisation. The patient medical history and concomitant medications were not reported. It was reported the patient was a doctor, died after the vaccine with no apparent disease. It was not reported if an autopsy was performed. No follow-up attempts are possible. Information about lot/batch number cannot be obtained.; Reported Cause(s) of Death: Unknown cause of death

197 posted on 05/17/2021 10:22:36 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: dynoman

Correlation mixed with reporting bias, but yet not a single account of an actual US Standard Certificate of Death listing COVID-19 vaccine anywhere in Section 32 Part I, and not a single doctor or medical examiner who states they have an actual patient who died from a COVID-19 vaccine.


198 posted on 05/17/2021 10:23:57 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: dynoman
All vaccine deaths except covid reported to VAERS the last ten years; 1,467

Reporting has changed. There's a lot more reporting. People are reporting the hearsay you linked and I quoted. People are reporting that they had a headache. Never had anything close to that type of reporting in the past.

199 posted on 05/17/2021 10:25:37 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: semimojo
"What's the point of repetedly posting useless, out of context data?"

Now hey, THAT'S an interesting question. What IS the point, exactly? There's always a purpose. Always a "why".

200 posted on 05/17/2021 10:25:58 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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