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New NJ Turnpike Widening Upsets Enviros as AECOM Wins $48M Study Contract
Engineering News-Record ^ | April 5, 2021 | Stephanie Loder

Posted on 04/29/2021 10:31:06 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 04/29/2021 10:31:06 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ll study it for half that!.......................


2 posted on 04/29/2021 10:31:56 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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Widening turnpike and parkway at odds with Murphy’s energy policy, critics say (3/31/21)

Work to widen parts of the Turnpike, Parkway take first step forward (3/23/21)

3 posted on 04/29/2021 10:33:22 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: BobL; sphinx; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian; Haiku Guy; napscoordinator; ConservativeInPA; ...

PING!


4 posted on 04/29/2021 10:34:04 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Did I read that correctly? $48 million for 34 miles of an additional lane (or 2? One in each direction?) and will take 5 years?


5 posted on 04/29/2021 10:37:48 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Looks Like a Great idea, I see no problems, the people need it,...

Send my Check for $24 million Please, 1/2 OFF!!


6 posted on 04/29/2021 10:40:01 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: monkeyshine

$48 Million JUST TO STUDY the idea!


7 posted on 04/29/2021 10:41:02 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: eyeamok

LOL. I knew bureaucracy was bad. I didn’t know it was that bad!


8 posted on 04/29/2021 10:43:35 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I don’t see the need since cars will be pretty much verboten in the next 5 years.


9 posted on 04/29/2021 10:43:55 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So much for Biden’s $227.314 TRILLION so-called *infrastructure investments* ... the Greenie Marxists wouldn’t even let you cut the lawn in your own front yard, much less allow an expansion of a major highway


10 posted on 04/29/2021 10:49:53 AM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Ich bin ein Irredeemable Deplorable)
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Please don't widen it! Some of my fondest memories are being stuck in a traffic jam that moved 50 miles in five hours, in the heat of the summer without my car having a/c, with the windows rolled up because of the swarms of mosquito's coming from the surrounding swamplands.
11 posted on 04/29/2021 10:54:09 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane' )
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traffic jam that moved 50 miles in five hours

That's 10 miles per hour ... you're lucky at moving that fast !!!

Try being stuck on the Cross Bronx Expressway, 6 miles long, for over an hour and a half ... that's less than 4 miles per hour, and there isn't any obstruction either, just *normal traffic* .... yep, and slo-Joe is gonna fix all this, right ???

12 posted on 04/29/2021 11:05:44 AM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (Ich bin ein Irredeemable Deplorable)
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To: kickstart

I’ve traveled the NJTP many times once being a resident. The area being widened is no more than a two lane country road at present which is ridiculous for what is a major interstate artery in the Nations most densely populated State.


13 posted on 04/29/2021 11:10:47 AM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: Mr_Moonlight
There's a back story behind these projects.

For all of its leftist politics, New Jersey ain't run by stupid people. They've fast-tracked many of their highway projects by using bonds backed by toll revenues to finance them. This allows them to get the projects done without Federal money, so they can circumvent the Federal environmental review process.

14 posted on 04/29/2021 11:25:27 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Since everyone will be driving ELECTRIC CARS once these projects are finished, why are they objecting to them?

(and if you don’t know the answer, you need to learn a bit more about who this country’s enemies are and just what they REALLY want)


15 posted on 04/29/2021 11:25:59 AM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: eyeamok

Yep, just the “study” To paraphrase an old joke about Jersey public works, “twenty million for you, twenty million for me and eight million for the dorks doing the study!”


16 posted on 04/29/2021 11:38:05 AM PDT by clive bitterman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Widening a highway is a lot more involved than people might realize, especially in a densely populated state that never built the highway correctly in the first place nor kept adequate rights of way alongside it.

-Bridges in the roadway have to be widened or replaced.
-Bridge spans over the roadway often have to be lengthened, and usually require new pilings.
-Light poles need to be moved.
-Overhead sign gantries need to be replaced with longer ones
-Storm sewers need to be replaced (can't have a storm grate that used to be in the shoulder now in the middle of a lane).
-Some ramps need to be redone if their curve would be too tight to get to the widened roadway. New Jersey already has problems with trucks overturning on ramps that turn too tightly.

Because it's a road like the New Jersey Turnpike running through developments built right up to the roadway edge, they can't build temporary lanes alongside the active lanes but instead have to do all the work on the active roadway. It's like renovating your house while living in it every day.

All that above is just for the roadway and connecting roadways. Add in nearby rail lines and crossing rail lines and it's a whole other level of pain.

17 posted on 04/29/2021 11:45:30 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Never thought I would say it, but, I miss the halcyon days when you could drive through much of that s_hole state in a thick red fog of stinking smoke with the headlights on and your eyes burning...

NYC flushed its toilet and dumped its trash directly onto about 20-miles of the open NJ marshlands for burning or burial... Even Jimmy Hoffa is still out there somewhere...

Who would have thought that things could have gotten far worse for NJ in the coming decades...


18 posted on 04/29/2021 11:46:44 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: monkeyshine

You have to remember that NJ spends per mile for road construction then anyone. Lot’s of people at the trough.


19 posted on 04/29/2021 12:06:00 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: eyeamok

In the time it takes to do the “study” the Chinese will build entire highway systems.


20 posted on 04/29/2021 12:08:42 PM PDT by CtBigPat (The period of Crisis is ending. Now comes Normalization.)
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