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The questions remain as in all the other states trying to advance this type of legislation: 1) Is it going to apply to ALL the unconstitutional gun laws in the past or are they okay with them? Will they protect the citizens when the feds come after their firearms.
1 posted on 04/07/2021 9:38:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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2 posted on 04/07/2021 9:40:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,)
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3 posted on 04/07/2021 9:42:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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4 posted on 04/07/2021 9:50:29 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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“Uniparty Kabuki theater”


5 posted on 04/07/2021 9:51:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
How do Arizonians justify to themselves having voted for a president and a party which are attempting to enact laws violating the Constitution and forcing them to themselves enact (State) laws to prevent that?

Shouldn't they instead be enjoying the erosion of fundamental rights for which they voted?

Regards,

6 posted on 04/07/2021 10:02:10 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There are two power structures in the US - the federal executive and the states.

Not only is it older, the states command far more resources and manpower than the executive.

The constitution grants power over individual citizens but no power over state authority - the courts can only rule on the constitutionality of a law it can’t make an unconstitutional act legal.

Some states aren’t worth hogpiss but some have power and the will to use it - those with the resources and power can defy federal decrees and there is little the malefactors of DC can do about it.


7 posted on 04/07/2021 10:02:17 PM PDT by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The questions remain as in all the other states trying to advance this type of legislation: 1) Is it going to apply to ALL the unconstitutional gun laws in the past or are they okay with them? Will they protect the citizens when the feds come after their firearms.“

Exactly. While I welcome these laws they are half baked solutions at best. These questions are obvious and the fact they are not being addressed makes me think these laws are quietly intended to placate the base and amount to little more than feel good legislation. We must expect and demand total nullification of ALL federal gun laws starting with the NFA and the GCA. We also must insist these laws make attempts at enforcement of federal gun laws by any federal agent a felony with mandatory prison time upon conviction.

Lets face reality. Local sheriffs and state law enforcement agencies are not the ones using federal gun laws to terrorize law abiding citizens. The BATFE and the FBI are the problem and they must be stopped by state law.

8 posted on 04/07/2021 10:13:15 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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How could this be challenged in court?? How can the feds make a case that people not on their payroll are required to help enforce their laws?


10 posted on 04/07/2021 10:33:33 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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makes me feel so much better investing in a small house in Arizona as a safe have, should I need it.

Now, if I could get my wife used to the idea of snow now and then in winter.


11 posted on 04/07/2021 10:43:10 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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The NFA sections on suppressors and Short Barrel Rifles have always pissed me off. Let’s see a state pass a law to bypass those ridiculous rules.


13 posted on 04/07/2021 10:47:17 PM PDT by ETCM
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I said this on another thread so I’ll repeat it here. None of this matters unless there are penalties attached. It needs to have teeth. Pass a state law that makes any employee of the state civilly liable for cooperating with federal law enforcement on these questions. If a county sheriff or local police takes part in a federal raid of dubious merit, make all of those who participated liable in civil court for damages. Only then will the state agencies (LEO or otherwise) think twice about federal interdiction/cooperation within their states.

Not saying there is no place for federal law enforcement on key matters, just saying you have to start drawing lines in the sand. Choose a battle and fight it.


16 posted on 04/07/2021 11:14:39 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Didn’t south Carolina and a gew other states try this in 1861? I mean, what the north was doing was definitely unconstitutional. Its a slippery slope no matter what issues you have with the federal government. Also remember the last time and every time the feds stepped in a innocent people die.. ruby ridge, waco, amond bundy, the whiskey rebellion..


17 posted on 04/08/2021 1:27:58 AM PDT by Ikeon (WAR IS NO PLACE TO ACT CIVIL, AND WE ARE IN A WAR ! )
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Once the Democrats decided to have “Sanctuary Cities” (Illegal Alien Cities), all bets are off. We need “Income Tax Haven Cities” against the income tax which the Founding Fathers correctly made unconstitutional.


21 posted on 04/08/2021 4:07:34 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Every once in a while, RINO scum must pretend to act like a conservative patriot.

Funny how Kemp and now Ducey are talking tough.

22 posted on 04/08/2021 4:25:19 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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will undermine the rule of law and discourage law enforcement officers from enforcing federal gun laws to protect the public>>> DO police enforce federal immigration laws? No! why enforce any federal law. The Federal government has no law. No Court. screw them. create safe havens in the states.


24 posted on 04/08/2021 5:53:31 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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25 posted on 04/08/2021 5:55:47 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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Makes sense to me. All of the self proclaimed sanctuary cities and states said they would not enforce federal immigration law and prohibit their law enforcement agencies from cooperating with the Feds, then 2A cities, counties and States should be able to the same.

FUJB


37 posted on 04/08/2021 2:37:33 PM PDT by shotgun
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