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Tim Keller Says Biblical Moral Values Cannot Be Proven to Be True
https://reformationcharlotte.org ^ | April 7, 2020

Posted on 04/07/2021 9:29:19 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Tim Keller has long been heralded as one of the most profound thought leaders in Reformed Christianity. An author of several books and a popular speaker in the Evangelical speaking circuit, Keller has been silently creeping his way in under a facade of a defender of the Christian faith all the while attempting to destroy it from within.

Tim Keller is a prime example of trading historical Christian thought and represents a wave of postmodern thinking that has so infected the Church...

Keller, who ironically believes we have an objective moral duty to advocate for such things as racial justice, now insists that moral values cannot be proven to be true...

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(Excerpt) Read more at reformationcharlotte.org ...


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KEYWORDS: antichrist; clickbait; deceiver; falsewitness; heretic; keller; notnews; religionforum; servantofmoloch; timkeller
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‘We hold these truths to be self evident ...”
1 posted on 04/07/2021 9:29:19 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Who is this guy?


2 posted on 04/07/2021 9:35:19 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 11th_VA

I might have misread, but it appears he’s stating that moral values in the secular world, held outside of God or a belief in God, cannot be proven. Christians can prove theirs through the Bible. What can secularists use to “prove” moral values?


3 posted on 04/07/2021 9:37:52 PM PDT by freeagle
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To: 11th_VA

How could you prove Biblical values to be true to a pure hedonist self-worshipper or a Christian hater or a communist? I don’t think you can.

Maybe God will knock such a person on the head, maybe that person will see Christian life truly lived and it will call him or her. But that’s not logical proof that we can hand out.


4 posted on 04/07/2021 9:41:24 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate other.)
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To: Army Air Corps
Who is this guy?

He’s a PCA pastor causing havoc in the denomination...

5 posted on 04/07/2021 9:42:06 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Et Tu Fox News ?)
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To: 11th_VA

Biblical laws are “Natural Laws” be abuse the truth of then need no explanation. The. Words speak for themselves.


6 posted on 04/07/2021 9:42:35 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: 11th_VA

Outside of God’s commands, no one can truly say for sure what ality is, and why we always need more of it.


7 posted on 04/07/2021 9:42:52 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: heartwood

There is this thing called ‘Natural Revelation’ - Romans 1 I believe ...


8 posted on 04/07/2021 9:43:19 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Et Tu Fox News ?)
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To: Army Air Corps

A non pareil idiot. So the ten commandments are worthless? Really? When there are no absolutes to govern society, society, society becomes the absolute.
So tell me clown, where do you get your moral authority? An absolute retromingent jackass is just that.


9 posted on 04/07/2021 9:43:45 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 11th_VA

This guy took himself a bit too seriously. When people applauded at his talks and praised him , he began to feel like an idol. Soon he thought he was an idol and violated the First Commandant. He put himself ahead of God.


10 posted on 04/07/2021 9:45:08 PM PDT by allendale
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To: 11th_VA

Well yeah, but that was White privilege. /s


11 posted on 04/07/2021 9:47:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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And I share a last name with this idiot.....thankfully no relation.

He truly shows why the name means “basement” in german though.
Keller is cellar.
What an abysmal frog chode this dope is.
Taken in full his name Tim means “honoring God”...so his name is literally “honoring god basement” or “honoring the basement god”.


12 posted on 04/07/2021 9:48:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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Tim Keller Says Biblical Moral Values Cannot Be Proven to Be True

Oh, but they can. With science.

Do scientific research on people/societies that follow biblical morality versus people/societies that don't.

Proof.

#Science


13 posted on 04/07/2021 9:50:21 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 11th_VA

That is a crap headline for sure. Sort of like saying “ducks are better than dogs”. Or green is pretty, but blue is ugly.
That headline is a red herring. Godly values and Godly standards should be ones that all Christians seek to follow in their own lives.
Become more like Jesus by obeying Him.


14 posted on 04/07/2021 9:53:45 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: freeagle

If your interpretation of his claim is accurate, then the claim itself is correct. (I didn’t read the whole article.)

Without God, there is no objective basis for morals.


15 posted on 04/07/2021 9:58:44 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: 11th_VA

What is Reformed Christianity?

I know it must mean something because it’s capitalized.


16 posted on 04/07/2021 10:00:08 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“Reformed Theology” I know. Not sure if “Reformed Christianity” is the same.

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/what_is_reformed_theology/


17 posted on 04/07/2021 10:12:08 PM PDT by Salvavida
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This genius said that he only “half-believed in the Resurrection” . . . until he got cancer.

BTW, he calls his church “Presbyterian”. That would be mainline rather than Evangelical, IINM.


18 posted on 04/07/2021 10:12:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Certain ones crept in to the Church..........

Apparently this guy is one of them.


19 posted on 04/07/2021 10:14:55 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: 11th_VA

Moral relativism in the church of Lukewarm Laodecia? Guess who is standing at the door knocking?


20 posted on 04/07/2021 10:15:16 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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