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Senator who sponsored cash bail ban is outraged: Driver who threatened him with gun only had to post $1,500 to get out of jail
cwbchicago.com ^ | March 19, 2021

Posted on 03/19/2021 2:18:56 PM PDT by grundle

An Illinois state senator who sponsored recently-signed legislation that will eliminate cash bail in the state by 2023 is outraged that a man who allegedly flashed a gun at him while driving only had to post $1,500 to get out of jail.

“By him being released on bail, he’s free to do this again,” Sen. Elgie Sims of Chicago told the State-Journal Register.

Yet just last month Sims tweeted, “money bond doesn’t guarantee public safety or someone’s appearance in court, it supports a system where freedom is based on the size of someone’s bank account. We’ve tried the failed tough on crime polices [sic] of the past.”

The legislation Sims sponsored less than two months ago will soon prohibit Illinois judges from setting any cash bail except when the defendant “poses a real and present threat” to safety.

Sims called this week’s incident a “perfect example of how cash bail doesn’t make people more safe.”

Sims told the newspaper that he was driving in Springfield on Monday evening when the accused man, 54-year-old Michael Hoyle, drove up behind him with his horn honking and headlights flashing.

Hoyle passed him, then Sims pulled alongside and told Hoyle that he was on the phone with 911, the senator recalled.

“That’s when he pulls out a handgun and points the gun at me and says, ‘Let’s go,’” Sims reportedly said.

The vehicles separated, Sims said, but Hoyle found him and “started chasing me again.” He said he saw Hoyle holding a gun outside his vehicle.

Police arrested Hoyle nearby, and prosecutors charged him with unlawful use of a weapon, possession of a firearm with a revoked Firearm Owner’s ID card, and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

A judge set bail at $15,000. Hoyle had to post 10% of that to get out of jail.

According to police, there’s no evidence to suggest that Hoyle targeted Sims because of his position in the senate.

“The trauma does not just extend to me,” Sims told the newspaper. “My wife has not slept a full night since this happened. Those traumas are real.”

It’s not clear why Sims believes a person should be jailed until trial — away from their families, unable to maintain employment or provide support — while accused of a non-violent crime.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bailreform; banglist; cashbail; crime; doasisay; illinois
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1 posted on 03/19/2021 2:18:56 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

The ruling elite doesn’t want to live by the same standards as normal people. They give themselves special privileges.


2 posted on 03/19/2021 2:20:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of incurable hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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He flashed a gun? In Chicago? Can’t be true.


3 posted on 03/19/2021 2:21:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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4 posted on 03/19/2021 2:24:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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First he's saying "Let's go" (yeah, sure he did) like he's some sort of badass.

And later, we get this:

“The trauma does not just extend to me,” Sims told the newspaper. “My wife has not slept a full night since this happened. Those traumas are real.”

Cue the Boo Hoo Girl.

5 posted on 03/19/2021 2:25:15 PM PDT by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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To: grundle

Is this why grampa used to say “it all depends on whose ox is getting gored” ?


6 posted on 03/19/2021 2:26:01 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The veil of civilization is only 9 meals thick. )
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7 posted on 03/19/2021 2:26:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Love it when what goes around, comes around, for a POS...


8 posted on 03/19/2021 2:26:39 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Joe McCarthy now that we desperately need him sober?)
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To: grundle

Almost makes me believe in karma.


9 posted on 03/19/2021 2:27:31 PM PDT by Library Lady
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How does he think a battered woman feels when her abuser is released with no bond at all? Jerk


10 posted on 03/19/2021 2:27:33 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: monkeyshine

No, it was actually Springfield, it seems.


11 posted on 03/19/2021 2:30:43 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: SIDENET

Oops, I didn’t read the article correctly.


12 posted on 03/19/2021 2:33:08 PM PDT by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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“It’s not clear why Sims believes a person should be jailed until trial — away from their families, unable to maintain employment or provide support — while accused of a non-violent crime”

You gotta love CWBChicago.


13 posted on 03/19/2021 2:33:55 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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14 posted on 03/19/2021 2:37:16 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Jesus said 'I am the Light of the world'. ~ John 8:12)
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To: DannyTN

Now that IS funny!


15 posted on 03/19/2021 2:42:30 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: grundle
EVERYONE who backed and signed ANY bill removing bail needs to have bail for ANYONE who committed a crime against them reduced to zero dollars.

Defense attorneys need to state exactly that in bail hearings in cases where their client was involved in a crime with someone who wanted to remove bail requirements.

Defense Attorney to the victim, "Just a reminder that you're making a public statement to this court. Have you ever signed a petition, contributed money to a campaign, worked for, or voted for a program to remove cash bail?"

Victim: "ummm...yes"

Defense Attorney: "Your honor, as per this affirmation, my client needs to be released on their own recognizance."

You want no bail? You live with it and don't subject others to your lunacy.

16 posted on 03/19/2021 2:45:41 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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17 posted on 03/19/2021 2:46:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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To: DannyTN

That is hilarious. Even had his buddy film it.


18 posted on 03/19/2021 2:49:40 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The veil of civilization is only 9 meals thick. )
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To: grundle

Hmm maybe he can rethink his virtue signaling. Maybe he can do group therapy with the mayor of Portland?


19 posted on 03/19/2021 2:50:52 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: grundle
Elgie Sims.jpg

This wasn't supposed to happen to me, I'm a Senator!!!!.

20 posted on 03/19/2021 2:52:41 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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